Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #4

I didn't see the big deal either and thought I was going crazy!

I don't think they are over or that anything overly dramatic like JAM is going on, but I do find it a bit odd that they won't actually be together on their first Christmas as a public couple, not hopping back and forth for SHVs.  

If they were married, had kids and had done the family shuffle for years, maybe.  But they're first Christmas?  Just seems a little odd to me personally, but if it works for them...then good for them.  To each their own.  JMOAA

nothatgirl wrote:I didn't see the big deal either and thought I was going crazy!

Same!!

Ben is currently joking with Lauren's brother on Twitter about falling inlove with his sister. So, there's that.

Alanna wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

Alanna wrote:B&L were going to teach us all how to be in a relationship whereas other couples haven't made such bold statements. Also, Lauren has been hailed as knowing exactly what she's doing (in life?) and having it alllllll under control (in my understanding) so my standards for them are altered by how Perfect & Right these two are. All IMO.

I think this impression you and some others have of them comes from their fans. (So like probably me at some point! ) Not from B&L themselves. Ever.

Unless I'm crazy, I remember Ben actually saying he's excited about their reality show to show how to be in a relationship. I've learned a lot, Ben, a lot.

I don't remember Ben saying that anywhere. I do however remember both saying that others would see via the show that  they aren't perfect and they have challenges. They have both acknowledged publicly it isn't easy coming off the show and making a lasting relationship.

I still maintain the "perfect" image comes from (some) fans and a  bit the franchise itself. Not from Ben, and even less so from Lauren, IMO.

ETA: And now that I'm thinking about it a little more, IMO Ben and Lauren have actually been MORE real about the ups and downs of being a franchise couple than most. Via their show and interviews they are actually pretty honest about their challenges. They've been open and transparent about issues they've dealt with. I can tell via the show and interviews that they still have love for one and other and really want to make this work, and that's all you can really hope for with these people coming off the show. No one has a super easy go of it. Not a single successful couple or otherwise. Most actually only choose to show the sunshine and rainbows via social media, whereas I ACTUALLY think B&L have been more real. IMO.

Maybe my situation is different but my husband stays with my family for Christmas eve and Christmas morning. Then on Christmas Day we go to my mother in laws house and have lunch and stay until night time. There's a balance and I like it that way. I know with Ben and Lauren both families live far apart but its kind of weird that both are okay with spending their very first Christmas apart. I guess none of them wanted to make the sacrifice and just decided to be apart. JMO

IMO much ado about nothing.

I agree.

Yeah, ultimately it's their decision. If they're fine with not being together for Christmas week, Christmas Eve or Christmas Day then that's their choice. I personally think if they're still together next year that it would be nice for them to spend this time together to build their own memories and traditions, but if not, hey, more power to them if this is what they want.

sosleepy wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Idk if I could tolerate Ben on the best of days much less with his biggest fan IMO (mama H). Maybe she needed a breather .

Thanks! Just choked on my tea.

IMO Ben and Mama Higgins are the Nice version of Not Nice Josh and Mama Murray. Both sons are too tied to the apron strings with overbearing mothers who treat them as very special snowflakes IMO.
If I was Lauren I would be enjoying time over Christmas with my siblings and parents in Portland.    B & L have been practically tied together this last year and I think they are sorting things out. I think they love each other and I don't see impending doom in their relationship. But IMO Ben needs to grow up, cut the apron strings and put Lauren first over his Mama. Whether Ben can do that remains to be seen. IMO Ben is a lot of work to deal with. He needs constant mollycoddling. Lauren gives alot to Ben....time for him to reciprocate IMO.
All JMO

If I were Ben, I probably need a break from Lauren's faken voice, the side eyes and her intentional sweetness and perfectness.

Seabear wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Idk if I could tolerate Ben on the best of days much less with his biggest fan IMO (mama H). Maybe she needed a breather .

Thanks! Just choked on my tea.

IMO Ben and Mama Higgins are the Nice version of Not Nice Josh and Mama Murray. Both sons are too tied to the apron strings with overbearing mothers who treat them as very special snowflakes IMO.
If I was Lauren I would be enjoying time over Christmas with my siblings and parents in Portland.    B & L have been practically tied together this last year and I think they are sorting things out. I think they love each other and I don't see impending doom in their relationship. But IMO Ben needs to grow up, cut the apron strings and put Lauren first over his Mama. Whether Ben can do that remains to be seen. IMO Ben is a lot of work to deal with. He needs constant mollycoddling. Lauren gives alot to Ben....time for him to reciprocate IMO.
All JMO

I agree. No offense but I can see Mama Higgins totally throwing a fit and crying about Ben possibly spending Christmas with the Bushnells. It's an unknown territory for them since he's an only child.I think the Bushnells would've been fine with Lauren had she spent it with the Higgins. From now on they should just choose a place to spend Christmas each year and keep rotating. JMO

Hold on... I am confused, they are or are not going to be spending Christmas together.