Survivor - South Pacific - Discussion - Spoilers

JBF wrote:Sunday, December 18 (also a Wednesday show preceding it that week). However it may take through New Years for its lingering effects to subside. A lot of posters on Survivor Sucks, FORT and other forums may need aspirin to get over it, since I've had this funny itchy feeling all season long that a great many are being hoodwinked by the producers that Coach is going to win... or Sophie will win by default...

Um... maybe... um maybe not. No, I am not 100% certain... I could be wrong. Who was it who said nothing is 100% certain, just that he knew found "IT"? This just may be a good year for dudes who shave their heads close.

Thanks JBF! I enjoy reading your posts about this show as well.


Dee! I appreciate your charts!

nutty1 wrote:JBF, who is your guess? Loyalities die hard.....still wishing Ozzie would win. I haven't "bonded" with any contestants from this season. I did like Dawn, but she's history.

I have two picks:

Going by these...

1- forum and messageboard "opinions", Survivor Sucks opinions (although Jeff Probst admits to reading their speculation thread, so I bet the editors know how many try to "predict" winners there)
2- cbs.com Ponderosa videos (more about that in a moment)

It is Coach. However, when he stated on screen about potentially putting a bullet through Brandon's head, saying "If anybody goes against the five, it is instant death" and being compared to Jim Jones and Charles Manson, the negative feedback suggests that many viewers would be outraged with his win.

Not that we should consider that important. Not all of America loved Richard Hatch. Also most of us know this is just a reality tv show with lots of hot air talk. Coach has so much gas in his mouth, we can not take anything he says seriously.

Going by these...

1- the editing of the show with voice overs, Jeff conversations at tribal, challenge representation
2- behavior of contestant post-show, twitter comments and who Jeff Probst is avoiding in interview discussions
3- comments by others on screen, shown to explain to the casual viewer "why" that jury member would vote for them

I would say Albert. It is obvious that Edna and Rick won't vote for him, however. Edna is Martha Stewart and has zero tolerance for fires being put out. Rick doesn't like "Princess" Barbie dolls, although the only complaint he made to Jeff directly in a tribal was "he snores".

OK... now for additional imput here

I watched the Ponderosa videos at cbs.com (on the main Survivor site), when Dawn and Whitney joined Keith and Jim. Jim is "assuming" they will be voting for Coach since they all expect Albert to go soon, along with Cochran. This was, however, before the tribal that Albert had immunity at. Also, they are clueless about the alliance structures like we see on our TVs, so they THINK Coach has this in the bag.

Cochran has an outtake video shot BEFORE Albert got him the massage reward and before the two of them made a further attempt to persuade Coach to keep Cochran. He pretty much indicates that he will vote for either Coach or Albert, considering nobody else as savvy enough on the tribe. (Sophie gave him the Dagger Look and he probably felt it... LOL!) Now, after the tribal vote-out, he appears more upset with Coach than Albert since he made no effort at all to help him. Who knows? All three guys did meet up post show, so whatever conflict they had was in the past. (Go back a few pages here, there's a photo from Coach's twitter page.)

On Survivor Sucks, a meaty forum I haven't posted on... just read, a lot of people think Sophie is THE "default" winner if Coach loses. However, she is not on the radar of any of the Savaii members on screen, although Dawn and Whitney discuss her a bit here:
http://www.examiner.com/survivor-in-national/dawn-whitney-chat-whitney-admits-she-has-fallen-love-on-survivor

In this interview, Dawn and Whitney give descriptions of all candidates, calling Sophie "talented" and "smart". Dawn and Sophie have contacted each other post-show.
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/2011/tv-news/survivor-castaway-interview-whitney-duncan-and-dawn-meehan/

Now, apart from Coach and Albert, the others (Brandon, Edna and Rick) only really discuss Albert on screen... and Edna and Rick would most likely vote Coach over Sophie if he makes final 3. However, something dynamic may happen with her in a future episode that makes everybody hop onto the Sophie train.

The SS forum's "edgic" thread (edgic + logic) is VERY focused on things like "number of confessionals per episode" (PIs for us), which I personally don't think mean much. Sophie had one or two each episode, while Albert was more limited, but most of her discussions were about others rather than herself or her gameplay. One reason Albert didn't get them was because his occupation was as a "coach" and the storytellers wanted to emphasize Coach Benjamin first. What is overlooked is the attention he got in the challenges and at tribals, with Jeff ALWAYS calling his name (except for one in which he had a LOT of face shots). Needless to say, many over there would have assumed Bentley was final one on Ashley's season and disqualify what was going on in Phuket or Hong Kong because it had "fewer minutes" than the Ames or Lucas scenes. I am not putting those people down here, it is just that their reasoning often has me scratching my head.

I DO think Ozzy will get some sort of "redemption" on this show.

Coach chewed him out on the recap as S-T-U-P-I-D and a beach bum. Yet, Dawn speaks highly of him at Ponderosa and all four plan to vote for him if he makes final 3. So Coach's opinion is likely shaped by Cochran and, of course, we had that awful chicken slaughter scene that didn't make him any more "lovable" than Coach if he were to win.

However, Ozzy has NEVER stated on screen that he thinks Coach is S-T-U-P-I-D. Instead, he stated in episode #5 "If Coach is smart, he’ll vote Albert out soon." The other four on Ponderosa are expecting Coach to get rid of Albert any time soon. Something tells me that if Coach does not, then Ozzy will have something to say about it in the final tribal...

OK, the press release for next episode. Ozzy versus Cochran is just one part of the drama.

Just found out 12-3, per preview: Brandon's dad stirs up some trouble.

http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=29982
DURING AN EMOTIONAL FAMILY REUNION, THE DYNAMICS IN THE TRIBE CHANGE WHEN A RELATIVE CROSSES THE LINE, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, DEC. 7
CHEAT TWEET:Reunion time on #Survivor! A castaway’s relative crosses the line & may ruin their chances @ the million. 12/7 8pmET/PT http://bit.ly/szvk9A

"Ticking Time Bomb" – A relative crosses the line during the emotional family reunion, and an unlikely secret alliance threatens the pecking order of the Te Tuna tribe, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Dec. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Probing The Probst Mind…



What Jeff (who can’t keep his feelings a secret) says about the final contestants so that you “can’t” guess who wins and love the ones he loves regardless if they win.

Coach… I get all misty-eyed reading Jeff’s thoughtful affections here…

10-13-11 EW (Entertainment Weekly’s site ew.com)
Both of them came back to improve their social game. One is succeeding. The other isn’t. One thing I have always believed about Coach is that he is earnest. His approach may be full of bravado but it’s sincere. Ozzy has always struggled with authenticity when it comes to his relationships in the game. Savaii is smelling that Ozzy is out for himself but is pretending otherwise. Coach is sticking with his truth — that he wants to play the game with a group of people that he likes. Coach has grown since he last played. He now realizes that you have to meet others “where they are,” not where “you are.” Ozzy can still go all the way because he is such a dominant force, but he needs to “see the light” if he wants to have a shot at winning.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! We all want Coach to show us the light!

10-27-11 EW
Well I’m a bit like Steve Jobs. I’m 50-50 on the God thing. If there is a God, then I’m guessing that from time to time s/he does check out Survivor and based on who is asking for the “favor,” probably does care about the outcome. If it’s Coach and Coach is being sincere, I think God would probably lend him a bit of a hand. I think God appreciates the journey/struggle Coach is on in this lifetime and he probably wants to throw him an encouraging bone. The key with all of this is to remember that simply because God helped one tribe doesn’t mean he doesn’t like the other, just not as much.

I am speechless over this one…

11-10-11 EW
I love the new Coach. He’s evolved. That’s the idea in life, right? You learn, you grow, you adapt, you grow. Grow, grow, grow. I am so happy that people are enjoying Coach this year. I feel the difference. He said something very wise to me days before the filming began. He said, “I learned something valuable last time I played. You can’t expect people to meet you where you are, you have to meet them where they are.” It’s completely changed how he played the game and it’s working. Coach could make it to the end.

Key word “could”. Yes, Jeff, we all want to give the Fan Favorite prize to Coach.

Ozzy

10-20-11 EW
It’s amazing that coming into the game you would expect Ozzy to be the favorite, but the more I talk to people on the street it’s clear — Coach has surprised everybody and Ozzy is playing an even worse social game than he did last time.

Then again, people on the street may be telling him they love Ozzy and he is simply singing “I can’t heeeeear you…”

Cochran

11-03-11 EW
I think Cochran changed his vote for a few reasons and the number one reason is that he felt bullied by his tribe. So given the chance to go to the other tribe was appealing because he might improve his position from bottom of the totem pole and if nothing else, “pay back is a bitch, Ozzy.” Would I draw rocks? Depends. Jim’s logic made no sense to me because he kept saying that his “tribe” had the better odds, because they had two people with immunity, but Jim still had the same odds as everyone else. This is an individual game. At that point in the game I am not going to draw rocks. This is a zero sum game which means there is only one winner. I’m not drawing a f—ing rock this early in the game. Too many moves left to make. I like Cochran’s move. He’s a long shot to win so he went for broke.

Cochran is doomed, but Jeff loves him, clearly wanting him to last longer than he did. I get the sense that Jeff was never a fan of Jim.

Sophie

10-20-11 EW
Strategically, Coach is a few steps ahead of Albert but I’m not sure about Sophie. It’s not clear how much she is laying back vs. just letting Coach take the heat. Coach is playing the best game he’s ever played.

Jeff likes Sophie more than Albert, but not as much as Coach. The use of the word “game” so many times with Coach hints to me that Jeff is focused on the race track performance rather than the finish line… and the more I read Jeff’s silly devotionals to Benjamin Wade, the more I think he is not making the finish line. Could be wrong though.

11-30-11 his tout
Is she in a good spot to go to the end? It would appear. Right now, she’s done a great job of staying out of the way but very involved in the strategy, but they are at that point where anything can happen.

Jeff knows she is the favorite on Survivor Sucks and other forums he reads, but doesn’t want them to be too hopeful. He treats Sophie on twitter and online much like Chris Harrison did Reid Rosenthal in the summer of 2009.

Brandon

9-22-11 EW
Brandon is definitely unique and I respect his struggle. It’s an honest admission of internal conflict that is being magnified on Survivor. When you look at his situation, it really isn’t surprising. A former troubled kid who found God, wants to be a good “son” in His eyes but finds himself in the middle of a manipulative game haunted by the legacy of an uncle who is despised by so many. He’s wearing it on his sleeve and one thing is for certain — it makes for very compelling television

Jeff loves Brandon… and compelling TV is what keeps him showcased in every episode.

Rick

10-13-11 EW
I’d have to say that Rick is the biggest disappointment. Sure, he’s in the game and in an alliance but as a “star” on the show, which we really hoped he would be, he has not shown up. That’s just the way it goes.

Straight to the point. He ain’t winning. OR he is and Jeff is really furious because of he lacks Brandon and Coach’s appeal. Either way, that dig about Princess Albert HAD to be included for some reason.

Edna

10-20-11 EW
He has a [great] side deal with Edna that will garner him more favor than it will Albert or Sophie.

I boosted this with “great”… LOL! Jeff doesn’t discuss her much unless she is doing something for Coach... like fixing his dinner and washing his undies.

Albert

11-30-11 EW
I don’t think Albert has a chance in hell of ever winning this game so it doesn’t really matter. He’s so obvious you seem him coming from three islands away. Then again…I didn’t think Natalie had a shot at winning over Russell.

:laughingoutlou :laughingoutlou :laughingoutlou

What makes this line extra funny is that he is responding to Dalton Ross’ question about the challenge reward and Cochran’s potential jury vote, NOT “does he win?” Why even go there?

I love your analysis JBF!!! I'm confused though. I thought that the Survivor finale was a live show and they don't find out who won until then. Do the players know who won beforehand?

Amy-oops wrote:I love your analysis JBF!!! I'm confused though. I thought that the Survivor finale was a live show and they don't find out who won until then. Do the players know who won beforehand?

You are right... except that Jeff would know who got grilled the most at the final tribal.

Now, all of those spoilers saying somebody got "no votes" at final tribal... that would be an unknown IF the contestants are required by contract to keep their mouths shut.

Spoilers! Spoilers! Spoilers!

No two are alike. How many "boot lists" have we had now? A new one is out that Coach won this in a landslide. I believe it... and would also believe it was "fixed" for him by production. Nobody really likes Coach that much, but could vote for his game play I guess... or maybe the jury got something-something $$$ to help Jeff's favorite.

Then there are some downright silly stories online suggesting that Keith and Whitney (and possibly Ozzy and Elyse) weren't the only ones getting it on... whether or not they went as far as Cochran suggested. Maybe Brandon's jealousy may have had something to do with both "Prince" Albert and Mikayla getting a little too cozy. This may be total hogwash, but it gives new meaning to the nickname "Prince Albert" and explain why he enjoys watching Edna suffer with the housework after being "unsatisfed" since she was chosen over Mikayla. Uh hmmm... well, he did mention being "hungry" a lot.

I don't know what to believe, but I have the feeling we are NOT seeing everything we are supposed to on screen.

JBF, what is the new boot list?

Good Golly O Molly, there are so many circulating right now! We can't trust any. Hope I don't get too windy here, but here is the rundown from a cluster of different sites and messageboards.

The most widely "accepted" final 3 is Coach/Sophie/Albert with Rick as an unlikely but possible "wildcard" inclusion. There is one spoiler "claiming" Edna makes it, but several other stories are floating around that she is upset at Coach for doing something "dirty", which hardly supports this.

Supposedly Brandon drops out on his own before final 3 or 4. I personally believe this spoiler because:
a- He already told us twice on screen that he no longer cares about winning.
b- Twice other people's comments about dropping out/"voting yourself out" were edited with Brandon face-shots, including one by Ozzy when he left at one tribal.

Another spoiler "claims" that Brandon defeats Ozzy on Redemption. This is plausible, although we could see (surprise!) Cochran win and stay another week too. Ozzy tweeted to Dalton Ross of Entertainment Weekly, suggesting he'll be having an interview soon. Is that a sign of somebody beating him and not re-entering the game? Or is Ozzy just playing games with his followers? Some speculate that he could make final 3, although his case is more difficult to argue than others. Sophie, in her cbs.com outtakes twice says she's hoping to be in the final 3 with him since she thinks "nobody" likes him. (The Ponderosa videos with Jim, Dawn, Keith and Whitney suggest otherwise. Dawn in particular has a lot of respect for Ozzy and would vote for him in a heartbeat.)

Albert always gets the short end of the stick here... which makes me all the more suspicious that he may be the darkhorse "upset" CBS/Burnett/Probst is trying to hide despite all of the support Sophie gets from the messageboards. Now, maybe Jeff's sarcastic comment above is true: he does NOT have a chance. At least those supporting him won't complain that they were fooled by his losing. On the Ponderosa videos, Jim and Dawn think Coach will win and the editors are throwing everything but the kitchen sink (which I think is an overkill) to convince us that Coach defeats Albert in the end. Sooo... we shall see.

Thanks! I've only looked at boot list spoilers during China and they were spot on. I wonder why so many have failed this season (just going off your posts in here back in September)? Is it hit or miss every season?
I'm not sure how any season can top last season, but I'd sure like to see Ozzy win. The edit + Probst seems to be on the Coach train though.

eightfifteen wrote:Thanks! I've only looked at boot list spoilers during China and they were spot on. I wonder why so many have failed this season (just going off your posts in here back in September)? Is it hit or miss every season?
I'm not sure how any season can top last season, but I'd sure like to see Ozzy win. The edit + Probst seems to be on the Coach train though.

In the beginning, the spoilers were suggesting that neither returnee Ozzy or Coach won. Then, when it became more obvious that Coach will probably make final three, various "leaks" started dubbing him the winner... and he may be. I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Jeff Probst goes along with this "is this all a charade or the truth?" game by promoting Coach in his interviews as if he's the best thing since Wonder Bread. In a recent interview I have posted above, he says another contestant doesn't have a chance "in hell". Since he wasn't even asked a question requiring a "does he win?" answer, I do smell a little something-something a-cookin'.

If you visit Survivor Sucks, a site CBS/Burnett constantly plays cat & mouse with (remember Ali's Bacherlorette season when Roberto and Chris Lambton had all of these kitty and mouse references to fool viewers... AND Reality Steve followers?), the seasons alternate between nail-on guesses by the SS forum for winners and surprising blindsides. Survivor Gabon was one classic example of how Burnett gave those "geeks" a "Gotcha!" This season just smells... I don't know... I could be wrong... um... like a blindside. Right now, the majority on that forum have pretty much convinced themselves that either Coach or Sophie (with Ozzy a possible longshot) is the winner. Why Sophie? Because many "under the radar" WOMEN go far in these shows. Like Sandra defeating popular Russell in her second winning season, this makes "logical sense".

Dawn Meehan is to this season what Ryan Park was to Ashley's season. (You can see how I love making Bachelorette/Survivor connections. Ha ha!) A week before finale, Ryan totally spoiled that JP won in a LA Times interview. Maybe he was just following Reality Steve, but he was THERE too and could see things that editors hide from viewers. In an interview done the day after she watched November 30th's show, Dawn stated that she voted the one who best "outplay, outwit, outlast". This is a generic statement that could mean anything, EXCEPT that Albert was the ONLY one who stated in that episode "The players in my alliance think it's not outplay, outwit, outlast. They think it is out-clean, out-gather, out-organize." You can "cue in" here Edna being mad about the fire, Rick's comments and even Cochran pretending he caught Brandon's fish. It is obvious she is not voting for those four or the one who called her a snake and she called him "the head of a snake". She is friendly with Sophie post-show, so she may be an alternative choice, but I do believe the above line is the factor here.

Then again, Dawn COULD have voted for "head of the snake" Coach.

Now, if Albert does defeat Coach as the winner (and I am only speculating here and fully ready to be proven wrong), this will be remembered as the season of the Easter Eggs. Albert described Coach's silly let's-look-for-the-idol game with Brandon (when Coach had it all along) as an Easter Egg Hunt. Surprisingly, Albert's edit is loaded with Easter Eggs of a different sort.

A few which have tickled me:

-In episode #1, Albert and Rick are focused on when Jeff states "you can't get voted out" at the start of the immunity challenge. His tribe wins by the way, suggesting this is also a "lucky" statement.

-Also in episode #1, Ozzy won the first solo challenge and his tribe won flint for starting fires. The camera pans on Albert's face as Cochran and Jim mock to each other "We don’t have to hear ‘we’ve got nothing for you’… get your lame-ass asses out." Later, Albert was the key player leading his tribe to victory for both immunity and flint. This story arc came full circle in episode #12, when Edna fussed over trying to restart the fire Albert put out... which she hardly helped her team win flint for. Also, Albert gave Cochran the massage reward from his challenge so Cochran will NOT argue at the final tribal jury that he received "nothing" from Albert.

-In all but ONE tribal from episode #2 (when Albert's team first lost) onward, Jeff asks Al a key question that is somehow incorported into his closing statements. In #2, for example, he asks "You never really know who’s telling the truth, what is put on, what isn’t. Does it worry you that this tribe in this such disarray?" Albert: "I think we kinda got a little more information than we bargained for, this evening, but it is great when things come to surface and people reveal themselves because a person’s personality will creep in… and a person’s character will creep in a little bit despite how hard they try to mask that." Jeff's closing statement: "The biggest obstacle is trust."

-Episode #3: Albert's face is zoomed in when Jeff say "Once again, immunity is back up for grabs." His tribe wins.

-Episode #4, following defeat at challenge, Jeff's quote of "Somebody will be sent to Redemption Island" covers a shot of Stacey and Albert standing next to each other. Stacey goes.

-Episode #4: At tribal, Brandon says: “It is not how you start, it is how you finish”. Immediately, Jeff speaks to Albert: “Pretty emotional story Brandon just shared and yet we are still in a game. His uncle’s a master manipulator. So Albert, does that mean the number one topic for tribal council should be trust?” Albert: “Yes trust is certainly on everybody’s mind and it’s something that’s a contributing factor to the vote tonight.” Coach, Edna and Stacey are highlighted during Albert’s response, suggesting that trust may be their downfalls.

-Episode #5, following Stacey's rage at Redemption, Albert has his first "official" confessional on screen, sporting his name and "coach" occupation on screen. Everybody else on his tribe had their first confessionals with name and occupation listed in episode #1. His line: "Benjamin has been doing everything and Albert’s his right hand man and those are things I thought we would keep under the radar pretty well." Albert's character was initially "under the radar" as the one behind Coach.

-Episode #5 foreshadow line? While Albert searches for an idol clue, the line of "Good things are happening" is flashed on the screen. Of course, he finds the clue but Coach finds the idol after praying above "I am not worthy". The idol, however, is taking on a bit of a "voodoo curse stigma" this season, which means those "protected" will not be the ones touching it, while those who are impacted by it are expected to battle a very challenging destiny: Christina got booted because Coach saw her looking for it, Stacey failed to find the clue but the cameraman panned on it... and Albert found that same clue after Stacey chewed him out at Redemption, Ozzy found his tribe's and used it in a bizarre way with Cochran that backfired on him and the two are now battling it out on Redemption, while Whitney was momentarily spared by Ozzy's... only to wind up on the jury later. Now Coach is still holding his... but will it actually help him? He did fib to Brandon that God helped both find it together. Back in episode #2, Albert dubbed Christine's search for the idol and Coach's anger over this as the "raindrop that started the monsoon". Is this a foreshadow line for something happening with Coach himself?

-Episode #5: Albert plays a curious “phantom role” in the ousting of Elyse in the rival team Savaii. Ozzy says “If Coach is smart, he’ll vote Albert out soon”. This prompts Jim, who compares himself and Keith to Al as “strong” players, to side with Cochran’s blindside scheme against Elyse.
On another note, it is interesting that, while Coach chews out Ozzy as “stupid” as a beach bum in the recap show, Ozzy has NEVER called Coach that. Instead his primary quote is, again, “If Coach is smart, he’ll vote Albert out soon”. We shall see if Ozzy still thinks Coach is smart in the end.

-Episode #5: Jeff takes immunity away from rival team Savaii as the camera pans on Albert smiling: "I must take it back." This is the third time that Al's face is profiled like this before a challenge and the third time his tribe wins immunity.

-Episode #6 (the one in which the word "Easter Egg Hunt" is used): After losing the challenge, Jeff's line at tribal is "and YOU blew it" over a shot of Albert. In the question and answer session, Albert states the overall theme of Survivor South Pacific: "Loyalty can be faked. You can’t fake strength." Once again, this line becomes a part of Jeff's closing statement (when "strong" Mikalya gets voted out against Albert's wishes in favor of "loyal to Coach" Edna): "Loyalty, as honorable as it may be, is not always the answer."

-Episode #7: Jeff (pre-challenge over shot of BOTH Albert and Sophie): "Jack and Jill is about a brother and a sister. They are twins." Albert and Sophie do resemble brother and sister. Both lead their "family" to victory in the blindfold challenge. This is lucky line #4... if the camera pans on Albert before the challenge, your competing tribe will win. Ozzy is seen kicking the walls in furious defeat.

-Episode #8: When the merge is announced, there are no less than three shots of Albert shaking hands with his rivals, starting with Cochran. Although Coach toots "I have convinced Cochran", this line is spoken over a shot of Albert suggesting he didn't do it alone. He just did the "seduction" alone.

-Episode #8: Jeff's line of "One of you will be voted out and sent to Redemption Island" is spoken over a shot of Albert and Keith standing side by side. Keith is the one going next.

-Episode #9: When Jim says "Sophie and Albert are the only ones not drinking the Kool-Aid and are in the cult", the words are captioned over a shot of Albert but not Sophie.

-Episode #9: Ozzy (over a shot of Albert): "You have to take big risks for big rewards."

-Episode #9: Second tribal, Jeff asks Sophie who she feels is the biggest threat and she states Jim. Then Albert tells Jeff that Dawn is the “strongest” woman, the primary reason he initially suggests voting against her. (In episode #12, Albert at Redemption: “Good job, Dawn”.) After Dawn and Brandon have their argument over the feast held during her challenge, then apologizes to Brandon and gets forgiveness from him, the camera pans on Albert when she says “I understand”.

-Episode #10: Both Whitney and Dawn speak favorably of Albert on screen. Whitney says he’s the one who “cares” while the others are stuck under Coach’s influence, who “thinks he’s Jesus”.

-Episode #10: Cochran’s chess/checker game with Albert has him losing (checkmate), but also getting a free warning that he will be targeted in top seven.

-Episode #10: Albert's battle cry: This game is not out-organize, out-clean and, like, out-gather. It’s freakin’ Survivor.

-Episode #10: Coach's battle cry: Albert is playing for Albert and that is a dangerous game to play out here.

-Episode #10: Coach monologue sitting in his "throne of power": "There are three types of motivational styles, there’s coddling (shot of Cochran), there’s reaffirming (shot of Brandon) and there’s fear (shot of Albert), so I feel at the moment like a real mob boss."
Ahhh... but is Coach succeeding at it?
At tribal: Jeff: Is he your leader? / Albert: I definitely don’t think he’s my leader or the leader of this group or alliance. He may just be a figurehead who represents leadership for this group. (Coach grinning down.) Or he might be pulling the real strings. I mean it is very easy to make that connection from Coach to leader.

-In recap #11: After criticizing Albert's strategies, Sophie repeats Coach's previous line of "If anybody goes against the five, it is instant death." with her coconut chopping and lines of "“Albert’s the one who is always feeling uncomfortable, always wanting to make a big move. Sometimes I think he just wants to make a big move just for the hell of it. You go against the five. You go against the six. Yeah, we’re gonna throw you in the fire. We’re gonna chop your head off” (In episode #12, a few noticed that after Cochran's comment of Charles Manson, Sophie chops a total of 16 times, the number of stabs Sharon Tate received.)

-Episode #12: Rick calls Albert "princess" behind his back and complains a lot about him being lazy. Back in episode #4, all Rick could come up with as an Albert criticism with Jeff was "He snores".

-Episode #12: Key foreshadow moment: Coach's "I don’t think poor Albert does a day of work in his life. That boy’s been hand-clothed, hand-bathed by his mother." Albert gives Coach his reward of a “bush shower” and hand-massage by a woman.
Cochran tells a "little white lie" about his birthday to get the same reward as Coach. While together, Coach tells Cochran a "little white lie" that he will fight for his little warrior. Only Albert made an attempt to spare Cochran, while also being honest with him: "Quite frankly, it is not looking too good for your case. I think I was pretty sure… Coach was onboard. I could sway him a little bit and talk to him a little bit. The problem is I don’t think he’s ready to make a huge move that would be getting rid of, like, a Rick."

-Episode #12: Last of the Easter Eggs so far...
Jeff announces "I will bring in the jury" over a shot of Albert waiting. Jim, Keith, Dawn and Whitney are seated. To the casual viewer, this may be a sign that Albert will wind up IN the jury. However, there is a catch here. Albert is wearing the Immunity Necklace.

Come finale time, I will not be surprised at all if Coach wins... or Sophie... or even Ozzy. Yet, I am keeping all of the above in the back of my head for reference just in case...

By the way, TWICE Rick has been given the "the million dollars" line in both premiere and recap show. hmmm...

Wow, you are impressive JBF!!
I really want Ozzie to win, maybe I'd be OK with Coach or even Albert.....but not Sophie....she just rubs me the wrong way.

nutty1 wrote:Wow, you are impressive JBF!!
I really want Ozzie to win, maybe I'd be OK with Coach or even Albert.....but not Sophie....she just rubs me the wrong way.

Hey! I root for them until they get torched out. As long as Ozzy is still in it, he still has a chance. Also, Dawn said she would vote for him if he makes final 3. Probably Jim too. According to Maxx Fisher's latest week-by-week spoiler, Ozzy does beat Cochran on Redemption. (Edna is next to go there.)

I think Sophie was having her "discomfort" time when the last episode was shot. She wasn't at her most "lovable".

@survivorshannon Survivor Shannon E
@sophieGclarke this is your pmsing episode!! Easy of chopping the bamboo!!!

@sophieGclarke
@survivorshannon exactly. Pmsing bad. I went crazy