Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sdmom wrote:Going back to pre show sleuthing and found it on page 4 of this thread, dated 10/30. I repost this because I remember we talked about how Raven's camp may have fed RS info.

Beagle wrote:Going by her friend and her cousin's twitter, looks like Raven made it to F4.

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Desiree adds roses every week Raven is there.

Her cousin seems very excited too in response to RS F4.

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ETA the above tweet from Desiree was from 10/24. She again posted 7 roses 10/29
ETA the above tweet from Desiree was from 10/24. She again posted 7 roses 10/29
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5:46 PM · Oct 29, 2016
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - this is what I was referring to and my speculation that Raven was protected from Blogger Boy, for the comment by the so called troll because he was fed info all season on Raven.

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That means he already knew, before she tweeted him. If raven was a big source, he would have known the specifics of the fight that happened with Rachel/Vanessa and he didn't. IMO.

We can not assume if A, then B. We can not assume what was told to him. I may tell you X, but not include Y.

Could also be Raven's camp contacted RS first then tweeted later. Raven may just casually tell her family/friends there was a fight bweteen Rachel and Vanessa but didn't get into details, and her friends/family mentioned it to RS. I mean there are tons of possible scenarios and we can speculate all we want. Fact is: people from her camp tweeted RS during filming. If you make your sm public, people will speculate. So my speculation is Raven's camp is possibly one of his sources.

If RS can say/knew that Vanessa called Danielle L fake to Nick, I'm pretty sure he would have known about Rachel & Vanessa's fight...

RS has said he does not know what the R\V fight was about. If he did know, IMO, he would have spilled in a New York minute. The show may have had reasons to protect the edit of Rachel and\or Vanessa, but worrying about the effect of his gossip on people's reputations is not in the RS playbook, IMO

IMO, he would keep info close and not reveal, if it gave too much away about where it came from, so as not to totally reveal his source.

JMO

The fact that he deleted the "troll" post regarding Raven, when normally he doesn't delete posts according to what I read here on our forum:
1. plus the tweets, (BTW those are only two, there were more)
2. plus the bogus information sent to me on Nov 7th telling me Raven was eliminated, because sleuthers were on track,
3. followed two days later Nov 10th by LiarBoy revealing the F4 which obviously included Raven,
4. tells me he's a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]$$KissingContestantProtectorBottomfeeder

The fight supposedly happened during a date that Raven was on though. She might not know the details.

Oh she would get details immediately from the source... As soon as returning from the date. Girl talk.

This might be random but I just saw the kissing picture from HTD. I don't dislike Raven. The photo is a huge turnoff for me. Playing in the mud in those incredibly trashy shorts - just yuck.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] IA that date grosses me out. I find nothing romantic about that at all.

As someone who might be OCD when it comes to cleanliness, Raven's date is my worst nightmare.

There is a point in that clip where she picks up mud/dirt/something yucky and puts it on Nick's head. Like why?!?!