Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I just find their date so juvenile. Again no depth with these two. They look like high schoolers running around in mud pretending to be in love.

Personally I found a huge contrast between the HTD date activities with Raven and Corinne's date being on one side and Rachel and Vanessa's being on the other.

Mudding & shopping v/s Visiting church & visiting students

Considering the girls pick the date activities for their HTD's , I find it significant what they choose to share with someone they might get engaged to in a few weeks. All JMO.

To me it just come across as one of those movie scenes where they try to make something like rolling in mud seem romantic/sexy but it's just gross and nothing anyone wants to do in real life. 

It's why I don't see anything real between these two because the clip itself seems so staged and fake to me... I can almost hear the words "okay, Cut!" and reshoots of those moments to try get the right angle, etc. 

It looks all staged and forced to me and the very definition of "try hard".

This is how the TPTB are. IMO. They think it's sexy. They think it's a good date.
IMO they are far off the mark. That's why I have very little faith when it comes to their judgement.

IMO laying in the cold wet swamp, with wet clothes on, muddy etc is not sexy and fun. It's just cold, wet and dirty. JMO.

Yeah, so not sexy in my opinion. Was cringing when I watched it.

Raven's family is the best! I didn't know her brother was a cop. LOL

So happy her Dad is cancer free!

I'm mad ,the pictures we saw of raven and nick in the Hot tub on what abc online press they didn't show them on tv.
So I got this question wrong but why would we have those pictures of them in a hot tub,I shouldn't of gotten this question wrong....

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Maybe the contrast of their date was too much physical compared to the other HTD so they shortened it.

Cocoasneeze wrote:IMO laying in the cold wet swamp, with wet clothes on, muddy etc is not sexy and fun. It's just cold, wet and dirty. JMO.

Yep, totally agree. The scene looked so frigging staged, especially with her pulling off his shirt. Somewhere between Nicholas Sparks movie and country music video. I just don't see it with these two. Least credible final 2 at this point. I wonder if that will change for me with f3 overnight dates. Hope so!

She is sweet girl for sure but they just seem world's apart. I am excited for Raven, and hopeful that she is cast for bip. She has spunk.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] true but thecnially they still went in a hot tub during the week. They shouldn't of posted photos for people to see then.

Cila51290 wrote:I just find their date so juvenile. Again no depth with these two. They look like high schoolers running around in mud pretending to be in love.

It could just be a difference in age too. For me, there is a big difference in maturity between someone in their late 20s/early 30s like Rachel and Vanessa vs. someone in their lower/mid twenties ala Raven and Corrine. Just a lot of growth and self understanding/awareness. They say your brain isn't even fully functioning at an adult level until like age 24/25. 

Rachel and Vanessa have simply had more time to learn who they are as people and how to best present that to a potential spouse. Raven and Corrine are so young... especially considering Nick is now closer to 40 than 30, even.