Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

Kashathediva wrote:US weekly and TB:
Jordan is a fraud
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Des' leaves show
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Andi and Josh have wedding plans
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Nick blinded by lust with Corinne
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Ash2214 wrote: I know Us Weekly isn't 100% accurate and I stated that. I'm simply just stating that when it comes to behind the scenes information about the show and what happens in the finale or close to the finale (not about the people on the show specifically) they have been accurate before.

lleyki wrote:

It could be as little as Raven looked giddy in the morning so they must have done it.

Well didn't RS say the episode shows her hi-fiving people in the morning and running around looking happy and the show clearly hinting that she got her big O?

I know Us Weekly isn't 100% accurate and I stated that. I'm simply just stating that when it comes to behind the scenes information about the show and what happens in the finale or close to the finale (not about the people on the show specifically) they have been accurate before.

I do agree with you that the show producers themselves have clearly been US Weekly's source at times, particularly when they detail in very specific detail things that happen in an episode. For example this season they were the ones who first wrote about Nick and Corinne and the whip cream situation.

That said, because the producers themselves are the ones who are most likely their source, it's to their credit to put out the stuff they're trying to sell with the editing and stuff. And hey, it's also more than likely that Raven or even Nick would have talked to one of their handlers/producers about what happened.

That said, as much as I like Nick, I said it weeks ago that I wasn't going to hold out hope for him only sleeping with his F1. The fact is this is just the really icky reality of this whole franchise. Robby hinted at the fact that he and JoJo slept together and JoJo was so clearly gone for Jordan from the start. And the fact is Nick is clearly not someone who shies away from sex.

Yes, I agree with some that I would think all Raven's talk prior to the FS would have been enough to turn him off sleeping with her but to each his own. And I definitely never thought if the opportunity presented itself, he and Rachel wouldn't be intimate because I do think he was legitimately very attracted to her.

However, I think the other thing most rarely seem to consider is that sex isn't always full intercourse. In other words, there is a lot that can be done sexually that would be more than enough to give Raven an orgasm without her and Nick's um sexual parts connecting.

CHO wrote:Do we know that he had sex with the other two - Vanessa and Rachel ?  
Nick was pretty adamant before with Andi - asking her - how she could have sex with someone else shortly before becoming engaged to her F1.  Is this why the producers split the fantasy dates up?  We've talked all week about Raven's revelations and how impossible a relationship between N and Raven could be.  Now if there is the implication or question that he did not have sex with V or Rachel, there is going to be all kinds of discussions about that - for the remaining week. - and the possibility of what defines "sex."  Nail biter til the end !

George1218 wrote:I don't believe he had sex with Raven, but TPTB will do their best to make it seem like he did. Also, regarding the US Magazine, if they said "slept together" they could be right AND Nick still may not of had sex with Raven. I have "slept with" my sister in the same bed, but I sure didn't have sex with her!  cantstopl giggling