Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

SueSt wrote:

Pandora wrote:I think Jen was a "good enough" choice for Nick. I.e. she was attractive, intelligent, caring, funny, open, honest, etc. and would make a good wife. Hence the whole Nick speech regarding wanting to tell his heart to love her.

I don't see Nick as one to settle for "good enough" and I don't think he was ever going to be head over heels despite some attraction, so the breakup seemed right to me.

That said about his standards, he did almost propose to two Bachelorettes already. I think he may be overly impressed by fame (Bachelorette title = alpha woman, authority figure) and he may have let his fantasy of love get in the way and convince him that Andi or Kaitlyn was the one.

With Nick as lead, I am actually a bit afraid he will indeed wind up with no one. Or perhaps there is a good chance the cast will be full of strong women and he will go for the "villian."  I think he is less likely to listen to other cast trying to badmouth a woman he really likes, even if the woman deserves it. Hey, if all fails, we could have Nick on for a second season of the Bachelor!

I jest, but Nick is probably my favorite cast member ever. I liked how Andi and Kaitlyn acted when they were around him vs. how each acted with her F1. Had to throw that in.

And with regards to him being feminine...quote Andi saying "that is a MAN" or Kaitlyn saying Nick makes her "feel like a woman, a desired woman." I don't think emotions are necessarily even on a feminine side, but are simply put, human. I think Nick would agree but I would have to pore over his twitter to be able to quote him on that, so that's JMO.

Really good post Pandora.  

I'm also concerned with the outcome of this Bach format for Nick. I don't see him as a 'natural' lead... so I will be very interested to see how he handles the spotlight.

I have the feeling the Nick brought out deep feeling in both A & K but was rejected by each b/c they were ultimately uncomfortable by the intensity of their feelings in combination with Nick's less rigid (masculine) nature. ("You release all these feelings in me, but aren't strong enough to catch me when I fall")

albean99 wrote:I wonder who they were primarily casting for this season? I don't see women hoping for Luke being all that attracted to Nick (and some might say vice versa). Just like everyone about Nick, I think he's going to be very attractive to some people and not at all to others. it's not just about looks. His personality isn't for everyone either. I used to like him more in Andi's season but not sure about tv Nick which is what I see now. I think he helped himself on BIP but I doubt that will last once he does something that viewers don't like.

That's an interesting thought, ukglasgowkiiss. I'm sure some of the families may have preconceived ideas about Nick. I know I would. I always thought Brad (season 1) really liked Bettina but her family didn't seem impressed by him at all. Prior to that I thought she was potentially his f1.

albean99 wrote:I wonder who they were primarily casting for this season? I don't see women hoping for Luke being all that attracted to Nick (and some might say vice versa). Just like everyone about Nick, I think he's going to be very attractive to some people and not at all to others. it's not just about looks. His personality isn't for everyone either. I used to like him more in Andi's season but not sure about tv Nick which is what I see now. I think he helped himself on BIP but I doubt that will last once he does something that viewers don't like.

That's an interesting thought, ukglasgowkiiss. I'm sure some of the families may have preconceived ideas about Nick. I know I would. I always thought Brad (season 1) really liked Bettina but her family didn't seem impressed by him at all. Prior to that I thought she was potentially his f1.

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:Have just had a thought about how the four hometowns might go. I am predicting that at least one or two families will not like Nick and have pre judgements based on watching the past seasons. I wonder if that happens how it might change who he chooses as his F2.  Just a thought. All imo.