Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

seton wrote:

julychild wrote:

seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

Nothing I've seen indicates that he is attracted to someone who is a shrew, so I disagree. He likes strong women, but not the ball buster type as most assume. Of course, I'm making assumptions myself, but I think you can tell a lot about someone based on who they surround themselves with. And from what I've seen, his sisters, mom, female friends, meaning girls he is close to, are not the over bearing type.

He really liked Andi, but Andi misrepresented herself to those guys on that season.

I'm going with what Marcos said about his type, and what he is looking for.They've been best friends for over 25 years. He knows Nick.

andi is a termagant among other things. It doesnt matter if she was on her best behavior. Old Nick obviously sensed it in her cause he gravitates towards them. JMOAA

Ok.

seton wrote:

notarose wrote:

seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

I'm going with a Daenerys Targaryen doppelgänger.

I am impressed with the inclusion of the umlaut.

It's the little things

mprssdbyu wrote:I haven't read through all the pages. So forgive me if this has been rehashed/answered again and again. Are there supposedly going to be two returnees? I haven't watched a second of BIP, not my cup of tea. But I would love to see Caila/Nick type of date. She's not forward like Andi but she's a smart cookie. Did she have a bad/different edit on BIP?

At this point, we are only speculating about the returnees, only because that seems to be the script season after season. Filming starts the end of September. Once sleuthing is in full force, we may be able to pick up through SM or other means of who the returnee's will be, (like we did for Becca) if in fact there are any this coming season.

There is a lot of discussion in Caila's BIP thread.

Caila's thread

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:The Amanda thing was a storyline. They were both only attracted to each other physically. IMO. They've kind of even said that they didn't feel anything towards each other.

I don't think it was ever even a storyline. I think there was an initial attraction to her, and that was all. Josh totally over-read that one.

I think that Jen was his best match personality-wise on Paradise, and even she didn't quite hit the bulls eye.

IMO Whitney would be a poor match for him. She is too conventional. I don't see him going for a nurse or school teacher-type at all. I see more someone who has an entrepreneurial flare (such as Jojo has with her business,) or a sales background, entertainment, fashion, design, possibly the arts, etc.

Amethyst wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:The Amanda thing was a storyline. They were both only attracted to each other physically. IMO. They've kind of even said that they didn't feel anything towards each other.

I don't think it was ever even a storyline. I think there was an initial attraction to her, and that was all. Josh totally over-read that one.

I think that Jen was his best match personality-wise on Paradise, and even she didn't quite hit the bulls eye.

IMO Whitney would be a poor match for him. She is too conventional. I don't see him going for a nurse or school teacher-type at all. I see more someone who has an entrepreneurial flare (such as Jojo has with her business,) or a sales background, entertainment, fashion, design, possibly the arts, etc.

Yeah, not necessarily a storyline. But only that it was a convenient relationship at the time. Jen and he match personality wise (moreso than any other girl in Paradise), but she's not charismatic. And I think that's one of the most important traits to Nick. I agree he doesn't seem like someone who wants a conventional woman. IMO.

I think Nick's perfect match could be someone like Sharleen as I think she encompasses a lot of the traits Nick is looking for (going by what he has said and posted on his IG the past few years).

Jen definitely seems charismatic on social media, more so than other contestants. She, like Izzy, just weren't given enough airtime. The entire season revolved around Josh/Nick, Josh/Amanda, Grant/Amanda, Evan/Carly and Ashley/Caila/Jared.

I think Nick would like someone like Julianne Hough. He set seems to go for really hot girls who are bubbly and outgoing.

I see 2 characteristics as being absolutely essential in his lady: IMO

1) The ability to be very open and honest (which comes from maturity and a developed self-awareness and confidence). He doesn't shy away from awkward or difficult conversations. He needs a lady who will value honesty above all else, even when it isn't pretty or pleasant, because that will be the foundation on which they build their relationship. The honesty to share and the openness to accept each other's talents and flaws.

2) The ability to have deep and meaning conversations (which comes from the mindset that life is complicated and the desire to explore deeply versus the mindset that life is simple and we just ride the waves). He needs someone who is cerebral, or else he will be bored. A cerebral lady will challenge him. I don't mean a lady who is necessarily schooled heavily or who is labeled as gifted due to a high IQ. I mean somebody who values and appreciates learning and knowledge for what it can bring to their everyday lives.

....and just like that, I feel myself getting sucked into his season.

I'm back. I knew Nick would be the bachelor eventually, every since Andi's season, that's why he spilled the beans on Andi and his fantasy encounter. I wanted Chase but I'm OK with Nick, I really like him now

MiaHawk wrote:I see 2 characteristics as being absolutely essential in his lady:  IMO

1) The ability to be very open and honest (which comes from maturity and a developed self-awareness and confidence). He doesn't shy away from awkward or difficult conversations.  He needs a lady who will value honesty above all else, even when it isn't pretty or pleasant, because that will be the foundation on which they build their relationship. The honesty to share and the openness to accept each other's talents and flaws.  

2) The ability to have deep and meaning conversations (which comes from the mindset that life is complicated and the desire to explore deeply versus the mindset that life is simple and we just ride the waves).  He needs someone who is cerebral, or else he will be bored. A cerebral lady will challenge him. I don't mean a lady who is necessarily schooled heavily or who is labeled as gifted due to a high IQ. I mean somebody who values and appreciates learning and knowledge for what it can bring to their everyday lives.

....and just like that, I feel myself getting sucked into his season.  

This is his sleeping (somewhere out there) beauty.

ED wrote:Jen definitely seems charismatic on social media, more so than other contestants. She, like Izzy, just weren't given enough airtime. The entire season revolved around Josh/Nick, Josh/Amanda, Grant/Amanda, Evan/Carly and Ashley/Caila/Jared.

I don't believe so. If you're charismatic, that'll come out if you're given 60 minutes of screen time or 60 seconds of screen time. She never got any screen time on The Bachelor or BIP. From what I've seen on both AND her social media (her snapchats), she's a wallflower IMO.