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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:49 pm

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Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:^ Whitney is too "happy go lucky". Someone like that would annoy Nick. I also don't think he wants to go back to "normal" life. He loves living in LA, modeling, being in the Bach circle. So, someone like Whitney, who went right back to regular life after the show, wouldn't work for/with him. IMO.

Whitney and Nick are a terrible match. She just has characteristics he NEEDS *if* he wants something real out of this. He's so intrenched in Bachelor universe. For something real, he needs a grounded woman, strong, career focused without the fame bug. Those are the characteristics Whitney has that Nick needs. Someone to extract him back into real life and screw his head back on straight after his 3+ year Bach vacation.

If he wants to stay in make believe LaLa land and picks accordingly, this won't work for him. His prerogative.

ETA: Molly!!! Whoever said it, perfect. He needs a Molly. Smart, loyal, kinda tough and firecracky, strong, career focused, has a little bit of the fame bug, but also very normal and retreats to normal life. That's Nick's prototype for sure!
He WANTS to be in LA, in that world though. Otherwise, he wouldn't still be there currently IMO.

mprssdbyu wrote:I haven't read through all the pages. So forgive me if this has been rehashed/answered again and again. Are there supposedly going to be two returnees? I haven't watched a second of BIP, not my cup of tea. But I would love to see Caila/Nick type of date. She's not forward like Andi but she's a smart cookie. Did she have a bad/different edit on BIP?
I don't believe Nick likes Caila (romantically or as a person.) He's instinuated that she's fake before. Plus, she also is "happy go lucky" like Whitney. And I think that would annoy Nick. IMO.

ironcat wrote:It's funny to read everyone's ideas about what Nick's "type" is.  The reality is that we really don't know, because up until now, his universe has been very limited to the one or two choices put in front of him.  Now he will get at least 25 to choose from, and how he reacts and who he gravitates to will better answer that question of what he's looking for in a wife.  IF he's looking of course, and not just hoping to extend his 15 minutes once again.  I am so looking forward to having some light shed on this topic after all the speculation.  Can't believe how much more excited I am about a Nick season than I was about Luke or Chase. As someone said, bring the popcorn!  Hugesmile

I wonder how the producers will package him as far as his profession.  Software salesman extraordinaire?  Aspiring underwear model? Reality show "star"?  Professional runner up?  The possibilities are endless.
It's because he's said countless times in interviews,etc. what his type is. Confident, outgoing, a little bit of a hard azz, etc. IMO.

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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:53 pm

Amethyst wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the producers had BiP in mind as a B-Team recruitment ground all along. Sure, they had Luke as a strong pick for TB and Chase as a reasonable back-up. But it's possible that Nick, Josh, and perhaps even Wells were invited to Paradise partly with an eye to seeing how they did. And now that people see you can get recruited for lead from Paradise, it will make it that much easier to fill the 28-30 Paradise slots without having to go with a "Who is that?" from a long-ago and faraway season as a selection.

One thing that I noticed on Paradise (especially early on, before he paired off with Jen,) was how the women flocked to Nick as a friend. You would see him sitting on the beach, surrounded by the ladies. I think they trusted him and felt safe around him. So I think that he will make a terrific lead. If nothing else, the women in the house are going to love him as a friend. And I think that will be his whole approach as a series veteran, to make sure that he is a great Bachelor "host" and ambassador to the newly arriving cast members.

I came on board during Andi's season, so I can't off the top of my head think of a cast member who has had the right personality type for him. I did find it surprising that he was initially attracted to Amanda on Paradise. IMO Amanda, although quite beautiful, is too soft, sweet, and submissive a personality type for him. At the same time, I think he does need an element of sweetness and kindness to balance the outgoing and somewhat sassy characteristics of his ideal woman.

You know what I think he's going to need more than any other characteristic in a woman? Intelligence. Not necessarily (and likely NOT) intellectual, but smart. Nick is a good conversationalist and he is going to need a woman that keep up with him in that regard. Along with that, confidence, an outgoing personality, quietly assertive when needed, not afraid to call him out, sassy at times, and fun, with an underlying sweetness and kindness. JMO.

I also think that Nick will fall head-over-heels, no doubt, so I *really* hope he picks well and finds the right one. He has a big heart and it's his time.
The Amanda thing was a storyline. They were both only attracted to each other physically. IMO. They've kind of even said that they didn't feel anything towards each other.

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Post by ironcat Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:04 pm

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:
It's because he's said countless times in interviews,etc. what his type is. Confident, outgoing, a little bit of a hard azz, etc. IMO.

That may be what Nick has said is his type, but I'll believe it when I see who he actually gravitates to when given a large pool to choose from.

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:11 pm

I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

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Post by StationWagon Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:13 pm

seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

Can I borrow your Dictionary or Thesaurus?

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Post by LingLing Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:16 pm

I really like Nick and think someone like Sharleen would be ideal for him. Someone witty, intelligent, a little geeky but with grace and compassion.

I am looking forward to this season as I feel Nick is the most interesting and bright bachelor yet. Best wishes to him in finding his soulmate.

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Post by julychild Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:25 pm

seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

Nothing I've seen indicates that he is attracted to someone who is a shrew, so I disagree. He likes strong women, but not the ball buster type as most assume. Of course, I'm making assumptions myself, but I think you can tell a lot about someone based on who they surround themselves with. And from what I've seen, his sisters, mom, female friends, meaning girls he is close to, are not the over bearing type.

He really liked Andi, but Andi misrepresented herself to those guys on that season.

I'm going with what Marcos said about his type, and what he is looking for.They've been best friends for over 25 years. He knows Nick.

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Post by mindless Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:34 pm

If Nick's still hoping to stay in the limelight one way or another, I don't think he should pick a Whitney. Nor do I think a Whitney would want someone who's been on a break from his career for a year and a half already. It's better to find someone who's on the same page as far as aspirations go.

I just watched the end of AP again, and Nick looked soooo happy when the others were on stage congratulating him. I want to see that genuine smile and excitement over a woman.
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Post by StationWagon Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:36 pm

mindless wrote:If Nick's still hoping to stay in the limelight one way or another, I don't think he should pick a Whitney. Nor do I think a Whitney would want someone who's been on a break from his career for a year and a half already. It's better to find someone who's on the same page as far as aspirations go.

I just watched the end of AP again, and Nick looked soooo happy when the others were on stage congratulating him. I want to see that genuine smile and excitement over a woman.

Naaaaaawww!!! Me too! He looked so excited. I am SO SO excited I will hopefully get to see him propose to someone who actually likes him and he knows will say yes! It's gonna be awesome.

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Post by notarose Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:40 pm

seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

I'm going with a Daenerys Targaryen doppelgänger.


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Post by Guest Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:40 pm

julychild wrote:
seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

Nothing I've seen indicates that he is attracted to someone who is a shrew, so I disagree. He likes strong women, but not the ball buster type as most assume. Of course, I'm making assumptions myself, but I think you can tell a lot about someone based on who they surround themselves with. And from what I've seen, his sisters, mom, female friends, meaning girls he is close to, are not the over bearing type.

He really liked Andi, but Andi misrepresented herself to those guys on that season.

I'm going with what Marcos said about his type, and what he is looking for.They've been best friends for over 25 years. He knows Nick.

andi is a termagant among other things. It doesnt matter if she was on her best behavior. Old Nick obviously sensed it in her cause he gravitates towards them. JMOAA

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:43 pm

notarose wrote:
seton wrote:I just know that Nick is gonna pick a termagant, whoever she is.

I'm going with a Daenerys Targaryen doppelgänger.

I am impressed with the inclusion of the umlaut. l o v e

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