Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Imo that sc of Richie and Olena under the bamboo sticks is prob the sqt she won after the tough muddy obstacle course gd they did...I can't believe Nikki has already fallen wowsers

It's finally on YouTube and I got to watch! I was so jealous of all of you. Almost as jealous as Nikki on that compatibility group date. Faith was adorable as always, I just feel bad wishing a year of loneliness upon her so she can entertain me as the next Bette. Alex is so in bubble love I almost feel bad for her. I feel as confused about Olena as Richie is I still can't decide if she's calculating or just a normal girl in a crazy situation. I do know that I am looking forward to next week and Nicki's second single date. Who goes home next week, Kiki? That will be a tough elimination. Also, should I have warmed up to Rachel by now?

AllAboutLove wrote:Preview for next week.

Richie saying to Nikki "what we have is real" shows me that Richie not only wants to reassure Nikki that his feelings for her are real but also that he gets that there is the "show" and then there is real life and Richie has real feelings for Nikki outside the show. Richie's use of "we" makes me think he already sees Nikki as himself as a potential real life couple.

I also think Olena may get SQT since she wasn't shown in the F7 spoiled pics by DM while the show was still filming.

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I am not sure if I am mistaken or not. I remember in an interview Nikki said "I wouldn't said I have fallen in love, but there is potential in the future .... Continues...continued." I think it somewhere in this forum, there was a mention.

I find that her two statements here are contradicting. I am wondering if I am mistake. Can anyone please confirm it. If i am not, then any thought as to why she contradicted herself. Thanks.

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LeapofFaith wrote:

I really think Olena is f1 ..their are just so many sc of her and imo it's going to be interesting to see how she lets her guard down because when she does she wins..jmo also she seems happier than Nikki does post show... Omg I foresee big heartbreak for whoever f2 and f3 I think Nikki and Alex......

LeapofFaith so glad Im not the only one who sees Olena as F1.  Have from night 1.  I think it will come down to who he can not send home.  Blown away with her night 1. His summary of her SD1 at the pool..challenges him, direct, etc.  SD2 intrigues, worth fighting for etc.  She has been present by not obvious.  She stated in an interview it took her some time in the house to get to know the girls but has made friends for life.  IMO she is about to "fly".  time will tell but next week sure looks interesting.

Funny, I have also seen Olena as F1 from the first episode (I still think she is too good for Richie).  At the beginning I thought she is getting all the screen time because she would be going home.  but she stayed.  With this continuing through the 2nd and 3rd episode, I  recognised the F1 edit of plenty of screen time but not obvious because it is not in your face.  One would think those talking all the time get the most screen time, but no it does not usually happen that way. IMO.  The camera pans to a group of girls, then to Olena, then another group, then Olena, then another group then Olena.

But it's so obvious Richie is into Nikki. Next week date is even telling. I think Olena will be like Lana or Sarah from SamW season as was mentioned earlier in the discussion. I think the obvious one from night one is Nikki. I would love if Olena is F1 but like ALL said Nikki had a video about her which Olena does not. All F1 has an introductory video about her so I think there is no way Olena is F1. I am just echoing the reasons that have been prevalent. I love if this season is different though and F1 is Olena. IMO

Quane, to me Nikki isn't obvious from night one. Yes, she is the front-runner, she is obviously in front, but Richie didn't show the obvious attraction to her from the night one. I finally got a chance to see all the episodes, but from the 1st epi I remember him obviously showing an interest for Megan and Olena.

happygolucky wrote:Quane, to me Nikki isn't obvious from night one. Yes, she is the front-runner, she is obviously in front, but Richie didn't show the obvious attraction to her from the night one. I finally got a chance to see all the episodes, but from the 1st epi I remember him obviously showing an interest for Megan and Olena.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I agree with you. With your logic reasoning and explanation, you do have a point. It's just that during SamW season I was so confident Snez is not the one but Heather was. In the end, I was wrong. But what do you think about the video getting to know the contestant like Nikki has but Olena doesn't
have. That is a factor made me think Nikki is F1.

With the sneak peek I heard Nikki saying I have fallen in love but during the interview she had, she admitted not yet fallen in love. It casts some doubt for me too. Just the edits and video  are very telling. Richie admitting his feelings for her. Anyway, can't wait for Wednesday to come.

I think the whole not yet fallen in love statement was taken from an earlier time, not after the show finished. IMO, it's been taken out of content.

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happygolucky wrote:Quane, to me Nikki isn't obvious from night one. Yes, she is the front-runner, she is obviously in front, but Richie didn't show the obvious attraction to her from the night one. I finally got a chance to see all the episodes, but from the 1st epi I remember him obviously showing an interest for Megan and Olena.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I agree with you. With your logic reasoning and explanation, you do have a point. It's just that during SamW season I was so confident Snez is not the one but Heather was. In the end, I was wrong. But what do you think about the video getting to know the contestant like Nikki has but Olena doesn't
have. That is a factor made me think Nikki is F1.

With the sneak peek I heard Nikki saying I have fallen in love but during the interview she had, she admitted not yet fallen in love. It casts some doubt for me too. Just the edits and video  are very telling. Richie admitting his feelings for her. Anyway, can't wait for Wednesday to come.

None of the two girls did get an intro package before the limo arrival as we can see in other franchise. Neither did Snez.
I remember thinking that was a factor into Snez not being F1 last year. The only thing that convinced me last year for Snez was the fact that she was a mother and in F2. Most of us thought their connection was more physical than anything because they were just showing us stolen kisses and a smitten Sam. Last episode was convincing also because they had was seemed like a huge obstacle and we all know obstacle = F1 mots of the time.

ETA: Not to forget the dresses at the FRC . white vs black-ish doesn't lie.

JMO

djogbenyuie wrote:

None of the two girls did get an intro package before the limo arrival as we can see in other franchise. Neither did Snez.
I remember thinking that was a factor into Snez not being F1 last year. The only thing that convinced me last year for Snez was the fact that she was a mother and in F2. Most of us thought their connection was more physical than anything because they were just showing us stolen kisses and a smitten Sam. Last episode was convincing also because they had was seemed like a huge obstacle and we all know obstacle = F1 mots of the time.

ETA: Not to forget the dresses at the FRC . white vs black-ish doesn't lie.

JMO

But for this season we have not yet seen the dresses, who is wearing what colour. If the obstacle factor is significant, then Olena has it. But then Sarah had it last season too, towards the end she opened up but was too late. I guess it might be the same for Olena too.

Quane, I answered in F6-F1 thread, since I'm talking about the edit and my reasons why I believe it's Olena. As for the intro video, it's no reassurance, as it can't be the number 1 entrance from the limo (like Snez). This time IMO TPTB mixed a lot of ideas up. Sasha's POV is very much in tune with his experience during SamF's season and the edit of that, but this time I believe it's not the same. This is The bachelor after all.

djogbenyuie wrote:None of the two girls did get an intro package before the limo arrival as we can see in other franchise. Neither did Snez.
I remember thinking that was a factor into Snez not being F1 last year. The only thing that convinced me last year for Snez was the fact that she was a mother and in F2. Most of us thought their connection was more physical than anything because they were just showing us stolen kisses and a smitten Sam. Last episode was convincing also because they had was seemed like a huge obstacle and we all know obstacle = F1 mots of the time.

ETA: Not to forget the dresses at the FRC . white vs black-ish doesn't lie.

JMO

quane wrote:
But for this season we have not yet seen the dresses, who is wearing what colour. If the obstacle factor is significant, then Olena has it. But then Sarah had it last season too, towards the end she opened up but was too late. I guess it might be the same for Olena too.

Sometimes the obstacle is just that, an obstacle.
For example, not opening alone can lead to no F1 (sarah) but can also leads to being F1 (bianca in canada). The difference is how the lead interest toward the girl. In Sarah case, ive never seen real interest and chemistry from both of them. While we had strong connections with other girls at the same time.
For Bianca the lead was interested and willing to work for it, and they showed her like a potential F1 early on. I mean it worked with their storyline.

So when there is chemistry, the obstacle is used to make us doubt. Otherwise it is just a real obstacle.

For Nikki, im expexting a bit of fake clouds toward the end to make us doubt.
For Olena, I want to see how Richie will respond to her opening up to make up my mind, if she can be F1.

Does anyone think that the patterns after a while become too obvious? First out of limo, intro package, 3rd/4th date spot, etc. 

I like watching the lead and they reaction...