JoJo Fletcher - Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Discussion

It's all subjective. Ashley I wrote that in her blog and then Sharleen wrote this:

"I found myself very emotionally invested by the time the episode came to a close and was almost embarrassingly moved by that proposal."

"As for the happy couple, honestly I really love them together. A lot. During the episode, I appreciated Jordan’s off-the-beaten path hesitation leading up to the final day and how, in his overcoming that and taking that “leap of faith,” he had his own mini story arc. His proposal speech was loaded with that specificity I’m always harping about, and I think anyone who doubted him or them together had their foots in their mouths watching that tearjerker of a proposal."

http://www.flare.com/celebrity/sharleen-joynt-on-the-bachelorette-finale-2/

Per usual, there will be lovers and those who are not fans of everything.

Once you get out of the show and your season is over . Not everyone will like you . That is the reality of everything . Instead it will just get worse . That is part of being on the show and reality star.Jmo

I stayed unspoiled this season so I've been off social media and have kept away from the tabloids.  Jordan reminds me a lot of my husband....both are the youngest child (Jordan's "look at me" personality is a classic example of birth order) in a family of professional athletes.  Like Jordan, my husband had a successful sports career, but it wasn't on the same level as his brothers. He was constantly being compared, constantly accused of riding their coat tails, constantly being misunderstood and told that he was entitled. It hardens you and makes you a bit scrappy and defensive and you always feel the need to prove to others that you are worthy of being where you are.  Athletes, especially elite athletes that played at the level Jordan did (the SEC is no joke), have to have a certain personality makeup -they have to be programmed a certain way- to be where they are. They have to have a high level of confidence and an ability to compartmentalize their feelings, especially as a quarterback. You heard him say several times that he "could only worry about the things that he could control"...that's a common mindset in sports psychology. For the most part (I'm speaking in broad generalizations), they just look at life very differently from others. They are a bit self-centered and they aren't maybe as sensitive and as soft because they're just wired differently. They're naturally very driven and competitive and a bit cocky and it's very difficult to just turn those things off when you step off the playing field because so much of it is so deeply ingrained in who they are.  All of these traits make them great athletes and competitors, but it tends to cause some trouble when they become boyfriends and husbands. They screw up a lot and they have to learn to take the focus off of themselves. Some make that transition well and others don't. Some women can handle those strong personalities and even find it attractive and others not so much. Only time will tell with these two.

Ashley has never been fond of JoJo. Even when she would recap Ben's season, she always spoke sarcastically and negatively about JoJo. And yes, I agree, Ashley I is an idiot. That girl is an almost 28 year old woman with a 15 year old brain IMO.

@avacaroline fantastic post! It puts things in perspective for me, for a lot of athletes behaviours.

Welcome over to the spoiled side. You all were terrific in the Non Spoiled threads!

Diana wrote:Speaking of Bachelorette recaps, anyone notice this part from Ashley I's? Interesting even people in the franchise are "not feeling it"


http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/news/a62250/bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-episode-11-finale-recap/?src=socialflowTW

I re-watched ATFR and I personally think their/her anger, if this is what you even call it, had to do with the hard time they had to go through because of the negative tabloid stuff when it should've been a happy time. 

Jordan and JoJo don't strike me as stupid in the least. They had to know that the show leaked some of that stuff to get the media ball rolling, just as B&L and K&S had to know,  I can picture Ben's face falling (was there a Bach After Show?) well anyway, on a sofa while CH first brought up the "hard stuff". Same with Kaitlyn shooting daggers at CH when he did the same to her. I mean think about it, the details in some of those tabloids could only be known by someone on location or by these guys themselves. Did TPTB do this to others (I haven't been on the scene long enough to know)? Or is this a recent trend?

I believe that because they are all gagged by their contracts it makes it extremely frustrating. On one hand, TPTB caused them a lot of grief and on the other they are grateful/thankful for the show because without it, they wouldn't have met their partners. They quickly learn to accept it and I think the memory of the deception, dims as time passes....  maybe much like childbirth?? 

This is what I assume happens. How else can you explain it otherwise? JMO

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:Ashley has never been fond of JoJo. Even when she would recap Ben's season, she always spoke sarcastically and negatively about JoJo. And yes, I agree, Ashley I is an idiot. That girl is an almost 28 year old woman with a 15 year old brain IMO.

Yes! Wonderful post Lennox.

So I saw this people now video of them together playing a game . And some interesting questions . I am cringing . Check it out the link and click the video

http://www.people.com/article/jojo-fletcher-jordan-rodgers-play-bachelorette-iquette?xid=rss-topheadlines

Regarding Sharlene v. Ashley everyone in the bachelor family should be allowed their own opinions. If I had to pick one of those two being my supporter and one being against me well I'd be just fine with the outcome if I were Jojo. I really don't see a super close friendship with JoJo and either lady anyway.

It's actually interesting because I've seen a lot of tweets and IG comments post show, saying things like "wow. JoJo and Jordan are actually cute together" and "I didn't like JoJo and Jordan but they're so adorable on snapchat." So even now, a lot of public opinion is changing IMO.

GuardianAngel wrote:@avacaroline fantastic post! It puts things in perspective for me, for a lot of athletes behaviours.

Welcome over to the spoiled side. You all were terrific in the Non Spoiled threads!

Thanks GA. Being unspoiled was a test in self control. I wanted so many times to take a peak on this side! It was pretty easy to peg Jordan from the very beginning. He was the one she was always chasing...

I didn't watch the finale only the afr, and I think the strain of the past couple of months showed. I mean Jojo was upfront about how difficult things have been with all the rumors about Jordan being in it for the fame, the Raya dating rumours. You can tell its been a struggle for her to trust Jordan, but I think Jordan has had to prove himself to earn her trust.