The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4

@LoveDovez ITA with your 3 points.

If she created her perfect husband in her mind featuring jordan, i am sure she got frustrated he did not check marked all her points. Maybe she is a spoiled girl living in lalaland with protective brothers, dad etc. From the start she stated to want a man who loves her more.... that is not only selfish but put herself with a huge ego IMO. In this line of thinking, anything less and she will be miserable and possibly make her partner even more miserable... considering jbag has a temper and she does not look like a doormat either. OUCH... jordan is not ben is not robby. IMO she learned it pretty quickly or she will soon. Some lessons need to be repeated several time for some people.

@MVMom39forever I think it is hard for anyone who tasted fame in this franchise, helped by brothers and close friend such Jame P, to do not be soiled by it to a certain level or completely. I am not saying she is all bad but she is smart and she did check on him... she had no interest in vinny the barber. The way they greeted each other at the premiere, the finally used... they may not met in person but i am convinced they chatted... how much in her perfect plan, aaron played a big role???

2 times she mentioned with luke that he did not look like a rough country guy (not verbatim)... she never wanted a cowboy husband, she tasted fame and she has a plan....

JMO

HEA wrote:is it me only to think that they were cheap on jojo season regarding the activities and fantasy suites?

I was hoping more va va voom romantic gateaways.... but saw a lot of sand, walking in streets, country field walks...

I was expecting to see elephants... so many historical temples... and they also have huge charities animals organization they could have used (she loves dog, why not Soi Dog Foundation)... where are the sea diving or surfing or whatever?

I saw this boat with jordan and little boat kissing... the yacht and plane.. again with jordan... but everything else is totally cheap IMO

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That last episode did feel very rushed, as if they just want to get this show over with and bring on Bachelor in Paradise (promoted more than the finale in MTA). I think her meltdown dumping Luke was longer than any fantasy date. Not to mention so much of the talk in the fantasy dates seemed overly scripted. Everybody looked like they were reading cue cards.

As I joked before, this show LOVES having a "to be continued". It would not surprise me in the least if After the Final Rose is also a "to be continued".

The problem with this season, from tptb point of view was that there wasnt enough drama, and basically none after Chad left so they had to "create" it in the edit. It was a tame season compared to most and the guys basically got along really well in the house so they didnt have much to work with. The MTA should have been only an hour episode, hence the hour of Chad

Watching all season I saw an insecure young lady seeking love and not really ready for it, she needed more time to heal from past breakup with chad and heartbreak from ben.Iam old fashion and i believe in being pursued not me pursing. She needs to know her self worth and have high expectations to be treated like a queen.This entire season she seemed like she was begging Jordan please pick me,please love me back,it's sad.He seem like a great guy but when he didnt know what he wanted from a year from now, that would have done it for me.She is inexperienced when it comes to knowing what real love is.They have a work to do in order for it to last.I dont think she was looking for long term marriage in this season, she was looking for a playmate.RS statement may or may not be true, but she put more emphasis on ben and aaron this season as well whether egged on by franchise. She worked to hard to get Jordan, I doubt the rumors are true.Wishing them the best. I was teamchase and teamluke. She is taking a beating on her social media for sending luke and chase home. I hope while watching back she can see her areas for growth and wisdom.

JBF wrote:

HEA wrote:is it me only to think that they were cheap on jojo season regarding the activities and fantasy suites?

I was hoping more va va voom romantic gateaways.... but saw a lot of sand, walking in streets, country field walks...

I was expecting to see elephants... so many historical temples... and they also have huge charities animals organization they could have used (she loves dog, why not Soi Dog Foundation)... where are the sea diving or surfing or whatever?

I saw this boat with jordan and little boat kissing... the yacht and plane.. again with jordan... but everything else is totally cheap IMO

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That last episode did feel very rushed, as if they just want to get this show over with and bring on Bachelor in Paradise (promoted more than the finale in MTA). I think her meltdown dumping Luke was longer than any fantasy date. Not to mention so much of the talk in the fantasy dates seemed overly scripted. Everybody looked like they were reading cue cards.

As I joked before, this show LOVES having a "to be continued". It would not surprise me in the least if After the Final Rose is also a "to be continued".

@JBF you are right they sure have been promoting BIP more than the Finale for this season and they have run out of time for anymore "to be continued".  

With Chad on BIP, it will be a "to be continued" until the end of summer. He doesn't even have to date anybody. The rose ceremonies will keep him on the show by default. What was the point of having him on ANY of these shows? I am not sure if he has dated anybody besides his Soloflex.

JBF wrote:With Chad on BIP, it will be a "to be continued" until the end of summer. He doesn't even have to date anybody. The rose ceremonies will keep him on the show by default. What was the point of having him on ANY of these shows? I am not sure if he has dated anybody besides his Soloflex.

For DRAMA - what else!!!

northernviewer wrote:The problem with this season, from tptb point of view was that there wasnt enough drama, and basically none after Chad left so they had to "create" it in the edit.  It was a tame season compared to most and the guys basically got along really well in the house so they didnt have much to work with.   The MTA should have been only an hour episode, hence the hour of Chad

Exactly. You noticed at the MTA it was just guys dishing out their beef with Chad and vice versa? Chad was the only common denominator. Even the freaking Garden talk about the "clique" was funny and light-hearted, when I thought the guys were going to be bi^ching about it based on what RS said and what I read.

IMO.

I saw a clip on an episode with JoJo asking Chad to list the things he like about her and he said he didn't know, that he doesn't know her. He said to the guys on that date that they couldn't possibly love her after meeting for one day or from looking her up 

I'll take that over being fake and making thing up to progress on the show

Idlemess wrote:I saw a clip on an episode with JoJo asking Chad to list the things he like about her and he said he didn't know, that he doesn't know her. He said to the guys on that date that they couldn't possibly love her after meeting for one day or from looking her up 

I'll take that over being fake and making thing up to progress on the show

If you saw a clip, you probably didn't get the idea of the whole date. The date was tongue in cheek. There were marriage proposals, rolling a stick on heads, etc. it was dumb.

IMO.

Idlemess wrote:I saw a clip on an episode with JoJo asking Chad to list the things he like about her and he said he didn't know, that he doesn't know her. He said to the guys on that date that they couldn't possibly love her after meeting for one day or from looking her up 

I'll take that over being fake and making thing up to progress on the show

But in the other threads here and in Jo's mind, BBJ is getting raked over the coals for the same thing  What a weird show.

Alanna wrote:

Idlemess wrote:I saw a clip on an episode with JoJo asking Chad to list the things he like about her and he said he didn't know, that he doesn't know her. He said to the guys on that date that they couldn't possibly love her after meeting for one day or from looking her up 

I'll take that over being fake and making thing up to progress on the show

But in the other threads here and in Jo's mind, BBJ is getting raked over the coals for the same thing  What a weird show.

I was just about to point out the same thing in the other thread.