The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4

BKay wrote:Here's a throwback thought - all the way to last Monday. While I'm waiting for Big Brother to start, I started watching the FD episode. Seeing it now with fresh eyes, I don't think Jojo had a meltdown after Luke told her he loved her. To me, she looked perfectly fresh and together when she came back inside to hand out roses. Her meltdown came afterward when Luke was leaving. Tptb imo switched the scene around to amp up the drama. And of course, ramp up Luke's profile.

I thought the same thing, Bkay.

I said this in the media thread but given the conversation above, I think it bears repeating.
I doubt JoJo knew it was always going to be Robby and Jordan.
Whatever made her decide on Robby and Jordan as her final 2 she found the reasons, like many would, to justify it after the fact.
If K saw her at this point, it makes sense JoJo would say it was always Robby and Jordan.

Here's another oddity. Many of you noticed she is wearing a thin gold bracelet at the frc in some of the scenes but not in others. It was speculated that Robby may have given it to her since word got out that he give her a gift at the market on the fd. I watched their date again and sure enough, the first part she has on a gold bracelet with a charm or something on it. Later, when they are getting pedis, she also has on a thin gold bracelet. That may have been pointed out by others and I just missed it, so sorry if so.

SueSt wrote:I said this in the media thread but given the conversation above, I think it bears repeating.
I doubt JoJo knew it was always going to be Robby and Jordan.
Whatever made her decide on Robby and Jordan as her final 2 she found the reasons, like many would, to justify it after the fact.
If K saw her at this point, it makes sense JoJo would say it was always Robby and Jordan.

The previous leads met Jojo before the f4 RC. It was prior to Jojo being down to just Robby and Jordan. chase at f3 was eliminated in Thailand not in the US so it was all before.


IMO the ladies maybe and/but Kaitlyn in particular felt out that Jordan was it by a long shot just like Kaitlyn herself said it was always going to be Shawn when he stepped out the limo and the rest of her season was just filler and entertainment. Jmo.

I saw a thin gold bracelet on her left arm on Jordan's and her's cave date. It's while they're sitting on the rock. I couldn't get a clear image of it when I'd pause the vid, but maybe if you watch it, you'll be able to tell if it's the same one.

is it me only to think that they were cheap on jojo season regarding the activities and fantasy suites?

I was hoping more va va voom romantic gateaways.... but saw a lot of sand, walking in streets, country field walks...

I was expecting to see elephants... so many historical temples... and they also have huge charities animals organization they could have used (she loves dog, why not Soi Dog Foundation)... where are the sea diving or surfing or whatever?

I saw this boat with jordan and little boat kissing... the yacht and plane.. again with jordan... but everything else is totally cheap IMO

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rhondam wrote:I saw a thin gold bracelet on her left arm on Jordan's and her's cave date. It's while they're sitting on the rock. I couldn't get a clear image of it when I'd pause the vid, but maybe if you watch it, you'll be able to tell if it's the same one.

I will go back and try to catch that. It would be odd for her to wear a gift from Robbie's fd on her date with Jordan imo.

HEA wrote:is it me only to think that they were cheap on jojo season regarding the activities and fantasy suites?

I was hoping more va va voom romantic gateaways.... but saw a lot of sand, walking in streets, country field walks...

I was expecting to see elephants... so many historical temples... and they also have huge charities animals organization they could have used (she loves dog, why not Soi Dog Foundation)... where are the sea diving or surfing or whatever?

I saw this boat with jordan and little boat kissing... the yacht and plane.. again with jordan... but everything else is totally cheap IMO

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Did Jo get a helicopter ride this season? I don't remember one. I was wondering why they went back to Thailand - Sean's season wasn't that long ago. And poor people, they sweated buckets.

Private plane but no helicopter ride that I remember.

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Di_ATL wrote:

jen689 wrote:
From RS...

I’ve had way more people tell they aren’t together anymore than ones that said they are. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is saying everything is great, they’re in love, and things are working out perfectly. Everyone I’ve spoken to is skeptical of the whole thing.

When was this statement made by RS? Just curious

In his column from today I think.

Altho I hope this isn't true, it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Reason #1 I still think Jordon went on for media attention only. I don't think he was ever truly serious about Jo being the woman he does life with ( using his words) Not Jo's fault, I just don't think he's ready for marriage and giving up his play boy life. #2 Jo is way too insecure for Jordon's liking. Any man would get tired of the questions after a while and I think Jo would always wonder each time Jordon was out of her sight. Not a cool way to live if you ask me.#3 As I've always said where there's smoke there's either a fire or the beginnings of one and seems like there's already smoke ..

Jo deserves a man that she has complete faith in and one that she know loves her more than she loves him, as this seems important to her since she's mentioned it several times. If it doesn't work out there will be another man out there that will be her forever after, that she won't have to question all the time ( a Chase like guy comes to mind here, but a more energetic one ) and she can look back on this as a great learning experience. Jo seems too loving to settle for some man she isn't 100% sure of...... All JMHO. : )

HEA wrote:is it me only to think that they were cheap on jojo season regarding the activities and fantasy suites?

I was hoping more va va voom romantic gateaways.... but saw a lot of sand, walking in streets, country field walks...

I was expecting to see elephants... so many historical temples... and they also have huge charities animals organization they could have used (she loves dog, why not Soi Dog Foundation)... where are the sea diving or surfing or whatever?

I saw this boat with jordan and little boat kissing... the yacht and plane.. again with jordan... but everything else is totally cheap IMO

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@HEA I thought they were as cheap on their activities as they were on good looking men for Jo. ; (

^^^LoveDovez...Good points! Jo Jo said during her FD dinner with Jordan that she is not good with long distance relationships. Well, she had no choice but be long distance with him, having to be apart while dealing with the headlines and RS gloom and critics. Not fun.

The gossip site, Blind Gossip, http://blindgossip.com/?p=79962  very rarely has gossip blinds about this franchise but the link that I shared to July 26 blind is obviously about Jo Jo and Jordan. Gives an interesting tidbit that family is not happy with show putting a spotlight on family feud with Aaron which seems fair. Since Jo Jo was prying so much, even after Jordan suggested not a good topic of conversation  while sitting in football stands, I can see how that could have also caused stress on couple in recent weeks.

Also, Jo Jo is very sensuous and hands on with several of her guys. Her future in laws supposedly did not like that Aaron ' s girlfriend made comment about their sex life on game day vs non game days. Well, if that supposedly bothered them, I would expect that the parents were not too pleased to see Jo Jo in bed with Robby, or the way she raved about sexual chrmistry with Luke or was stradling Chase on beach and in water before dumping him. All my opinion but if my son was f1, it would be hard to watch his very flirtatious fiancee on national tv.

I can also see Jo Jo not being too happy with Aaron saying in recent interview that he wished his brother well in the "competition" as if this was a football game vs. her love story.

Btw, the Blind Gossip site posted that they were still together as of July 26 while RS said today they were over so guess take your pick who is right.