Ashley I - BIP - Season 3 - Discussion

Omg that blog. She is insane and so delusional. Trying to justify all her actions. In complete denial. I don't even think Jared lead her on much, it's all in her head. Who ever told her that you had to convince a guy to be with you wait around for someday. Wth? That's not how love works. I question the accuracy of anything she says.

ElonM wrote: ''Yes, I was concerned about her going to Paradise because I didn't want Jared falling for someone in front of my eyes, OK?! I know his type! Still, Caila assured me on multiple occasions that even if she did Paradise, she wouldn't want to ruin our friendship by dating Jared, and that Jared wasn't her type inside or outside (albeit, she'd never met him). Without her in the mix, Jared and I both didn't think there'd be anyone in Paradise he'd really fall hard for — so I didn't prepare myself to walk into that.''
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IMO THIS IS INSANE. The fact that AshleyI still doesn't see how manipulative and unfair it is to have even asked Caila to not go to BIP or date Jared simply because it would have been difficult for Ashley to deal with is maddening???? So Ashley's aim was basically to make sure Caila never went on the show and prevent Jared from ever falling for her? Ashley also says she was reassured multiple times by Caila... how often was she bringing this up to Caila then? And IMO why would Caila need to be loyal to a "friend" who would dictate what she's allowed to do and who she's allowed to meet?

IMO it's pretty clear that Ashley developed this "friendship" with Caila just to make sure she never dated Jared. As Ashley said, she knows his type. I guess that's why Emily gets a free pass and this girl code only applies to people Ashley declares a threat to what she wants. I don't understand how anyone looking at this situation can think Caila is the person who is the problem. Caila mentioned in an interview that she was dating someone when Ashley first asked her not to go, and Caila said she didn't think she would at that time. But circumstances changed and IMO it sounds like Ashley can't forgive Caila simply because she stopped Ashley's manipulative plan from working. Also, if Ashley's saying that without Caila she and Jared didn't think there'd be anyone he'd fall hard for THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE SHOW?! Just trap the guy you're infatuated with on a resort and hope because there aren't any other options he'll pick you?   The people feeling sorry for Ashley are just feeding her faux victimhood and delusions. She's really too far gone it seems and IMO she needs to be told clearly that what she did was wrong or she'll just continue. All JMO.

Ashley has to be treated with goddamn kid gloves. What if Caila had said "No. Ashley. I wanna go on BIP and meet Jared." She would have went into her hysterics. She cornered her. She's a manipulative azz.

I've read back a couple of pages. While I agree AshleyI is in need of help, TPTB are allowing all this "drama" to be on our screens. If they had any backbone, someone from the staff should have politely escorted her off the set...permanently. JMHO.

happygolucky wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:^
I agree, I don't get how no one is calling AshleyI out on being a manipulative schemer and playing with people. What right does she have to tell Caila not to meet Jared and not go to BIP?

I think most people, including BN folks, don't "approve" of AI's behaviour and find it ridiculous ... we could see that a little bit in the eye-rolls of Sarah and Carly making fun of the situation ... most "sane" people probably find it disturbing and some just prefer to avoid it ... I would presume most people don't call her out and if we see them "give support" to Ashley ... mostly because they feels sorry for her. Not because she would be right in her doing, or because they would accept her actions as normal and justified, but because they understand she has issues and don't want to poke further.
But someone needs to shake her up ... seriously I hope for her sake.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Her blog is just so insane. She says she told Caila to not go to BIP, because she didn't want to see them fall in love right in front of her own eyes. There was easy solution to that: AshleyI didn't have to go to BIP to see it happen. Bet she didn't even consider it. Best if she order Caila around, prevent her from meeting Jared and from the opportunities BIP might bring her way. Or she could've talked with Jared, but she's never been honest with him about this, so this is out of the question. Her excuses for herself are sickening IMO.

Columbia, MD wrote:I've read back a couple of pages.  While I agree AshleyI is in need of help, TPTB are allowing all this "drama" to be on our screens.  If they had any backbone, someone from the staff should have politely escorted her off the set...permanently.  JMHO.

Per the bolded:
This is the show. This is what they do. To not take advantage of this train wreck would go against the grain of what they do. I think the only way the show would intervene is if someone would be an actual, real threat to themselves or another. They want talk. They want ratings. They want the viewer to come back next week and bring in more viewers with water cooler or forum chatter.

IMO Ashley is stuck in a middle school mind set in emotional maturity. Not even a middle schooler would talk about "2nd base" on tv. They have better sense and more dignity. IMO yes, she could use a good 5 yr plan of therapy. Get her a reward card for discounts even.
She was told in February, the relationship was in the friend zone. That was a good 4 months before filming. This show is a speed training hookup. What did she think Jared was going on the show for? To help Jorge and learn new drink recipes? The writing was on the wall, but when you can't read, writing is meaningless.

^^ which is part of why I am watching so little of it.

TPTB told Ashley not to tell Jared she was going on, I'm sure they told Caila not to tell anyone she's going on. However Ashley doesn't see anything wrong by not telling Jared, compared to Caila not telling her.

I don't even feel bad for AshleyI for how she's portrayed. So many Bach people have said how smart she is irl, that she knows this is the character the show wants from her, it brings her $$, so she keeps it up. She's claiming ownership of a guy who has told her he wants to be just friends with her, and plays manipulative mind games to control him and who he can/not date. She does this all publicly, on the shows, on sm and in interviews. Why feel sorry for her? She knows why she's invited to the shows, what's her role, plays it up and gets paid. She's not forced into it or taken advantage of. Jmo.

I'm surprised she threw the producers under the bus. It seems now she's going in circles blaming anyone she can for her behaviour.

GuardianAngel wrote:I'm surprised she threw the producers under the bus. It seems now she's going in circles blaming anyone she can for her behaviour.

Better somebody else than herself.

I actually loved that she threw the producers under the bus and also blamed the edits. This usually does not end well for increased return visits. Please please please TPTB - MF revoke this hysterical girl/womans return to Franchise card.  I have seen more than enough of her ridiculous antics.  
JMO