Re: Ashley and JP *Picture thread*

[Admin]

I uploaded the second episode coin toss with Ashley and JP for someone, so I thought I would share. You can watch in HD too.

[skitts]

Flashbacks:

Still probably my favorite picture of them. I think this is where 'who likes who more' found equilibrium.

I agree!!

I third that...my very favorite of all the pics!

[Diana]

I uploaded the second episode coin toss with Ashley and JP for someone, so I thought I would share. You can watch in HD too.

This is one of my favorite Jash moments.

[sjcaligurl]

Flashbacks:

Still probably my favorite picture of them. I think this is where 'who likes who more' found equilibrium.

I agree!!

I third that...my very favorite of all the pics!

I guess they had a hard time finding pics and footage they could work with where it wasn't obvious what was going on. She wasn't like this with any of the other guys. JP shouldn't have had a problem watching most of the show so I cannot see where he was too upset about most of what he saw. I think Bentley was probably the least of his worries. He probably had more issues towards the end like her going back for more in the elevator w/Ames, letting Lucas kiss her, her thinking that Dino was hot ... I think he's pretty satisfied that she didn't kiss any of the guys the way she kissed him even though we didn't see the extended footage of the first date and he claims she didn't really kiss him back until Phuket.

[sjcaligurl]

JP kinda reminds me of Stan Laurel from Laurel and Hardy.

[anders]

I guess they had a hard time finding pics and footage they could work with where it wasn't obvious what was going on. She wasn't like this with any of the other guys. JP shouldn't have had a problem watching most of the show so I cannot see where he was too upset about most of what he saw. I think Bentley was probably the least of his worries. He probably had more issues towards the end like her going back for more in the elevator w/Ames, letting Lucas kiss her, her thinking that Dino was hot ... I think he's pretty satisfied that she didn't kiss any of the guys the way she kissed him even though we didn't see the extended footage of the first date and he claims she didn't really kiss him back until Phuket.

IDK - letting Ben rub sunscreen all over her body most likely raised a few hairs. Ben did get pretty intimate....

[mnmhughes]

I guess they had a hard time finding pics and footage they could work with where it wasn't obvious what was going on. She wasn't like this with any of the other guys. JP shouldn't have had a problem watching most of the show so I cannot see where he was too upset about most of what he saw. I think Bentley was probably the least of his worries. He probably had more issues towards the end like her going back for more in the elevator w/Ames, letting Lucas kiss her, her thinking that Dino was hot ... I think he's pretty satisfied that she didn't kiss any of the guys the way she kissed him even though we didn't see the extended footage of the first date and he claims she didn't really kiss him back until Phuket.

IDK - letting Ben rub sunscreen all over her body most likely raised a few hairs. Ben did get pretty intimate....

Ehhh, Ashley was practically a saint compared to some other Bettes! And as JP himself said, "She didn't kiss anyone the way she kissed him." :Nod:

[ironcat]

I guess they had a hard time finding pics and footage they could work with where it wasn't obvious what was going on. She wasn't like this with any of the other guys. JP shouldn't have had a problem watching most of the show so I cannot see where he was too upset about most of what he saw. I think Bentley was probably the least of his worries. He probably had more issues towards the end like her going back for more in the elevator w/Ames, letting Lucas kiss her, her thinking that Dino was hot ... I think he's pretty satisfied that she didn't kiss any of the guys the way she kissed him even though we didn't see the extended footage of the first date and he claims she didn't really kiss him back until Phuket.

IDK - letting Ben rub sunscreen all over her body most likely raised a few hairs. Ben did get pretty intimate....

What I found strange about her "intimacy" with Ben was how out of place certain moments seemed, compared to her overall rather tepid physical relationship with him. We know that Ash in real life is a very touchy feely type, and has said herself that she likes/wants constant "physicalness" with her man (she told Ryan this, and watching her and JP both on the show and post show is confirmation enough that she wasn't exaggerating!), yet with Ben, she was relatively reserved most of the time, with "demure" kissing and hugging, neither of which was at all excessive. With the exception of a couple of occasions, like the sunscreen incident, the comment in the mudbath and the leg slinging on LCD, which were pretty much out of character (apparently not the "real Ash" character, but the "Ash with Ben" character) with the way she acted the majority of the show (with everyone but JP). Makes me even more convinced that a lot of this more forward and suggestive behavior of hers was encouraged/egged on by the producers, since they needed to show the audience that Ash was interested in more than just the one guy she was naturally all over.

I expect she explained a lot of this to JP during their discussion of "show misunderstandings", and obviously he's accepted it and is over it.

[anders]

Oh - I definitely agree - I think he willingness to go that far with Ben came from production. She was easier to read than a Dr. Seuss book, she was all about JP since the JP carrying her from the beach and could barely feign interest in any of the other guys.

Ben was barely a plausible F3 let alone F2 and they really had to reach deep to find stuff to not make it look like Connie was actually the intended F2 and not Ben.

Wasn't it right before HTDs she had a PI/VO of just wanting to go home and quickly changed it to doing the HTDs = she was so ready to end the whole show right then and take her man to bed (loved that in the finale btw)

[skitts]

Oh - I definitely agree - I think he willingness to go that far with Ben came from production. She was easier to read than a Dr. Seuss book, she was all about JP since the JP carrying her from the beach and could barely feign interest in any of the other guys.

Ben was barely a plausible F3 let alone F2 and they really had to reach deep to find stuff to not make it look like Connie was actually the intended F2 and not Ben.

Wasn't it right before HTDs she had a PI/VO of just wanting to go home and quickly changed it to doing the HTDs = she was so ready to end the whole show right then and take her man to bed (loved that in the finale btw)

Left foot, left foot, right foot, right...feet in the morning and feet at night!

[sjcaligurl]

Oh yeah ... By the end, she was ready to go home just as JP was ready for it to be over and for her to choose him. I'm not sure when/where they had conversations but I just feel like we missed out on a whole lot. I told a friend the day after the finale (she stopped really watching the show a couple seasons ago) that I felt like I'd seen a 10 year relationship play out in a couple of months. So odd that in an interview they said that they felt like they'd been together for 10 years.

In the same interview, he says that there is a lot we didn't see in Hong Kong but he really fell in love with her there. I don't think it was all a physical thing either ...

Even while the show was airing, you can tell where they were both got sick of it and wanted it to be over. I think JP's commentary on the HTD episode were painfully obvious as was her local interview where she said that we could probably tell who she picked and that she was a bad Bachelorette by not being able to fake it with people.

Right now, I think they just want to move on. It's not like they don't have real lives/jobs/friends (unlike so many of the other people on the show). They seem like they want to fade away - though that won't help our interests much. LOL!

[Guest]

I guess they had a hard time finding pics and footage they could work with where it wasn't obvious what was going on. She wasn't like this with any of the other guys. JP shouldn't have had a problem watching most of the show so I cannot see where he was too upset about most of what he saw. I think Bentley was probably the least of his worries. He probably had more issues towards the end like her going back for more in the elevator w/Ames, letting Lucas kiss her, her thinking that Dino was hot ... I think he's pretty satisfied that she didn't kiss any of the guys the way she kissed him even though we didn't see the extended footage of the first date and he claims she didn't really kiss him back until Phuket.

IDK - letting Ben rub sunscreen all over her body most likely raised a few hairs. Ben did get pretty intimate....

What I found strange about her "intimacy" with Ben was how out of place certain moments seemed, compared to her overall rather tepid physical relationship with him. We know that Ash in real life is a very touchy feely type, and has said herself that she likes/wants constant "physicalness" with her man (she told Ryan this, and watching her and JP both on the show and post show is confirmation enough that she wasn't exaggerating!), yet with Ben, she was relatively reserved most of the time, with "demure" kissing and hugging, neither of which was at all excessive. With the exception of a couple of occasions, like the sunscreen incident, the comment in the mudbath and the leg slinging on LCD, which were pretty much out of character (apparently not the "real Ash" character, but the "Ash with Ben" character) with the way she acted the majority of the show (with everyone but JP). Makes me even more convinced that a lot of this more forward and suggestive behavior of hers was encouraged/egged on by the producers, since they needed to show the audience that Ash was interested in more than just the one guy she was naturally all over.

I expect she explained a lot of this to JP during their discussion of "show misunderstandings", and obviously he's accepted it and is over it.

Here is my take on the increased passion with Ben on the LCD. I think there were two things at play in that situation.

One - If there had been any extended, serious, deep conversation between Ashley and Ben that night the jig would have been up. I don't think she could have continued to maintain the facade with Ben any more than she did with Ryan on his last date. I don't think she would have come straight out and said anything, but I still think she would have given it away by the tone of her voice, the look in her eye, or the expression on her face. If he had started talking about their future together (kids etc.) I can see her tearing up, looking away and stumbling over her words. She wouldn't have been able to hide it, and he would have seen it for what it was. Game over. The only real option to forestall any kind of meaningful conversation at that point was making out.

Two - She had genuine feelings for the guy. They had a relationship and a friendship, and it was about to be over. This was the last 'happy' moment they were ever going to share. The next time she saw him she was going to have to break his heart and end their friendship. She couldn't warn him, couldn't let him down easy. She was probably already dreading it, and not sure how to handle it.... I can imagine her feeling really emotional wanting to make that last time they were ever going to spend together something positive. Especially since she knew how it felt to be him (almost).

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