Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2

She already started working her own fashion and beauty blog site . I think it is safe to say . From what I gather she tweeted one of their fans who asked her when is her new blog coming out because that fan is so excited for her blogging . She said August hopefully. That is next month already. So she is working her blog on her downtime . I don't know if her blog is the same like these formers most . Just for her personal thing sharing her personal stuff and fashion taste or other way round .

bluwavz wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:I respect everyone's right to their own opinions. I just don't see a lot of anything from Lauren. She is neither good nor bad. I just personally don't see anything in her that I find admirable.  

I have struggled why I dislike this couple, because there is nothing truly objectionable about them. They are average and pretty normal. Finally reading these interviews crystallized it for me. There is just nothing of depth to find in what Lauren has presented so far. Maybe it is there and I have missed it and maybe it will come out later.  For now, there is nothing for me personally to admire about her.

She is welcome to not work, many do it. It is not something that I respect. I snarked on Kaitlyn for not working, I snark on Andi for not working, if I bothered to follow Jade or read much about her I would probably snark on her too, so I will snark on Lauren as well. Fair is fair.

My opinions as always are my own and not meant to change anyone's mind.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  It's all good.  Ben and Lauren aren't going to do it for everyone.

Personally though, I don't find many people from this franchise incredibly deep or of substance. I actually find Lauren in the upper half in this area (again, it's The Bachelor franchise. MOST people who appear on this show and sign their lives away are  about as deep as a kiddie pool.) Now I'm trying to think of incredibly deep individuals who've appeared on this show. I'm sort of drawing a blank. Lauren's better half, Ben, actually comes pretty close as one of the few who showed more substance, to me anyway. And you are who your friends are, usually. IMO.

At one time I thought Sharleen but lately I've been starting to reconsider that one as well.

I used to think Nick Viall was as well. I think we have some that have more depth, but they tend to be the ones who don't keep playing in the bachelor pool full time. JMO. I put Ashley and JP in the depth pool, Meredith is in there, and countless others who got the heck away from this franchise once their 15 minutes were up. I also refuse to use "well they are millennials" as an excuse, just because you live in an idiocracy doesn't mean you need to be an idiot. Again, I have met some amazing women in the their early to mid 20s who are doing really great things with their lives and for others. Ben is, Lauren is not. Ben loves Lauren, so good for her it doesn't matter what I think.

umngirl wrote:I totally get the career change thing. I have a college degree that I don't really use since I don't plan on getting my doctorate like originally planned, and switched to a job within the USOC that I really enjoy.

Maybe it's just my perception, but I just don't see Lauren as a motivated person willing to put in the work to make a career change. I think she would rather just model clothes and makeup on social media.

JMOAA

This is what I see. I see a sweeter version of Andi and Kaitlyn. She is every bit as entitled as they are IMO, she just does it with the blank eyes and a half smile or duck lips instead of the smirk and sneer of Kaitlyn. If I start to see Lauren actually work hard at something I will maybe change my mind. Even her blog, if she actually manages to do it and keep it going I will be impressed at her following through at something. For now she is just the kinder, gentler, more boring version of Andi to me. JMO.

I do think they have wonderful families both of them and I don't think Lauren is a bad person, she is just a little lazy and entitled IMO.

She has been working on her blog for months now. She has alluded to it many times in tweets and comments on IG. I think that says something that she didnt just roll it out after the finale, it hasnt been an overnight thing. We don't know how much time she has already spent on her endeavers and we wont know really until we see her in action so Im going to wait to judge her until then.

Stuck I get where you're coming from. I agree that what we see now isn't all that much, and just like your experience with nick, I think it takes time for true colors to show. I look forward to seeing what Lauren brings out next. Their show, although probably boring for some, interests me because I look forward to seeing what she's all about. Time will tell if you will, but I have a feeling she's going to surprise people. Just a hunch. 

And again I think her greatest purpose will be creating a family like that of the Bushnell/Higgins. I believe both moms were stay at home moms and raised incredible kids. As Trista said so beautifully in her speech, she's not just a mom. 

And @soccermom333 there's other fan forums here?! Thanks for the post.

SeekAny wrote:Stuck I get where you're coming from. I agree that what we see now isn't all that much, and just like your experience with nick, I think it takes time for true colors to show. I look forward to seeing what Lauren brings out next. Their show, although probably boring for some, interests me because I look forward to seeing what she's all about. Time will tell if you will, but I have a feeling she's going to surprise people. Just a hunch. 

And @soccermom333 there's other fan forums here?! Thanks for the post.

I am definitely open to changing my mind. I have so very many times both in a positive and negative way. So if I see more from her in the future, I will be happy to be wrong. It is never bad if someone is more than I expect and I am really good at being wrong .

BTW, while I will not watch their show, I am excited that their fans get to see them. Just because I wouldn't watch it doesn't mean their show is a bad thing at all, as long as it doesn't create tension in their relationship, then good for them for getting to cash in and do it in a hopefully less sleazy way than SM schilling or doing one of the relationship counseling shows.

Surprisingly from my level of activity here, I don't like reality tv all that much. I don't watch much unscripted tv at all and can't stand the Kartrashians or any of their ilk. The Voice and DWTS are the only other non-scripted shows outside this franchise that I watch. I tried Famously Single and Coupled and they just didn't grab me and are now sitting on my DVR unwatched. I made it through a couple of seasons of Survivor and TAR and gave up as the formula got boring for me, so I don't know why this show has managed to keep me at all, probably this awesome discussion board and TWOP before it.

Now true crime tv, I can watch almost every single show on ID, it annoys my hubby endlessly. He watches every non-scripted gold rush, dirty jobs, ice fishing, etc show out there. Thankfully we agree on a lot of scripted tv, so we are good on having some shows to watch together.

Just finished catching up on people complaining about Benlo having a reality show over other past Bach/ettes. To me, they got the gig because of Ben's resume. It's a show and regardless if they're "boring" to some they have enough substance to carry on a show. Besides their undeniable chemistry, family oriented, and values its the political and community service that Ben is passionate about that the network liked. I wouldn't be surprised if the crew goes down to Honduras to film. Some of the most recent couples all stem from the same pool and do the same thing over in SM. I think our current Ette Joelle, is the only one who has a shot in having her own show as well because she also has a great resume. Flipping homes and doing charity work with her brothers is also something networks like. JMO

soccermom333 wrote:^^^^SeekAny I give you props for trying but the thing is people are here and have their favorites and some like lauren and Ben and some don't.  It makes the board more exciting.  I could try and go in the Sean and kait thread, and believe me "some" have tried, and state my case   to convince the non-fans why they should "like" Kait and Shawn.  I would be wasting my time.  LOL  

It is what it is here.  We all have our favorites.  Some couples just resonate more with some and not with others.  You should see us in the BBJ and Jojo fan thread!  

Anyway, just don't take it personally that there are some who don't like Lauren and Ben.  I have learned this lesson a long time ago.  I have fan-girled many a couple and believe me they were not always "popular."  :cutesmile!:

I agree with a lot of this post, in that everyone has different taste, and different couples/people resonate differently with everyone.  And that's cool. What amazing times we live in that we have SEVEN different couples together, with a side of Janner and all the new couples coming out of BIP! Something for everyone, pick your flavor. But in regards to the bolded, it's a discussion thread, not a negative thread. I appreciate people bringing forth stuff you might typically just find in the fan thread to actually discuss. What @SeekAny brought over is a good representation and example of what this couple is really about, IMO. One thing that Lauren really gives to Ben, is a big family and siblings. How wonderful for only child Ben to have 2 brothers and a sister, loving in laws. Ben's parents also seem wonderful and have invited the entire Bushnell clan over for the weekend. It must make them very happy to know Ben is marrying into such a close knit family, with lots of siblings. He's an only child and parents don't live forever, and God willing, kids outlive their parents. Parents think about that kind of thing, the family their children will have when they are gone. I bet they have some level of peace that Ben appears to be so taken in and accepted by such a great family.

And in regards to Lauren Bushnell acting entitled, sorry, I personally just don't see that at all. I see a kind hearted, happy person, who cares greatly for her siblings, her God child, her family, animals, amongst other things.  I see someone who uprooted her life only 3 months ago, who had a huge life change, and is currently adjusting and figuring out a new normal. I see someone who has always maintained a level of gratitude for her blessed life, finding Ben, and the opportunities that have been given to her. I see someone who hasn't even taken many sponsored adds, and isn't making an income the easy way out like most from this show. I see someone I'm willing to give more time, to see what she becomes.

I don't think Ben acts entitled at all, I think he seems like a pretty great individual. He's with Lauren, he lives with her, he loves her, he is currently spending the weekend with her entire family (minus her sister). I don't think he'd be so enamouroured with such a supposed entitled, egotistical individual. And if he is, then that makes him the same way. Sometimes it bothers me all the girl on girl hate. Lauren gets 10x the critism as Ben. Not fair. Not right. Usually you are who you love. And I think these two are incredibly similar in a lot of core, fundamental ways.

Lauren and Ben are nice people. And at the end of the day, that's worth a lot. So many bishy people in this world that have a problem with any/everything.

IMO.

stuckinsc wrote:
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This is what I see. I see a sweeter version of Andi and Kaitlyn. She is every bit as entitled as they are IMO, she just does it with the blank eyes and a half smile or duck lips instead of the smirk and sneer of Kaitlyn. If I start to see Lauren actually work hard at something I will maybe change my mind.  Even her blog, if she actually manages to do it and keep it going I will be impressed at her following through at something.  For now she is just the kinder, gentler, more boring version of Andi to me. JMO.

I do think they have wonderful families both of them and I don't think Lauren is a bad person, she is just a little lazy and entitled IMO.

Stuck, this is exactly what I see in Lauren too.
She's not a bad person, but I think she is nothing more than a surface level princess wanna be. Now that Ben picked her, it's just easy for her to really be a princess to only do occasional modeling, trying out new clothes and new make up, and of course some PR events for some screentimes. Other than these superficial things? Nothing.

Good post @sosleepy. You described their lives IMO perfectly.

BTW this isn't the first time the Bushnells went to Warsaw and spent the weekend/several days with the Higgins and vice versa.

stuckinsc wrote:

bluwavz wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  It's all good.  Ben and Lauren aren't going to do it for everyone.

Personally though, I don't find many people from this franchise incredibly deep or of substance. I actually find Lauren in the upper half in this area (again, it's The Bachelor franchise. MOST people who appear on this show and sign their lives away are  about as deep as a kiddie pool.) Now I'm trying to think of incredibly deep individuals who've appeared on this show. I'm sort of drawing a blank. Lauren's better half, Ben, actually comes pretty close as one of the few who showed more substance, to me anyway. And you are who your friends are, usually. IMO.

At one time I thought Sharleen but lately I've been starting to reconsider that one as well.

I used to think Nick Viall was as well.  I think we have some that have more depth, but they tend to be the ones who don't keep playing in the bachelor pool full time. JMO.  I put Ashley and JP in the depth pool, Meredith is in there, and countless others who got the heck away from this franchise once their 15 minutes were up.  I also refuse to use "well they are millennials" as an excuse, just because you live in an idiocracy doesn't mean you need to be an idiot. Again, I have met some amazing women in the their early to mid 20s who are doing really great things with their lives and for others.  Ben is, Lauren is not.  Ben loves Lauren, so good for her it doesn't matter what I think.

umngirl wrote:I totally get the career change thing. I have a college degree that I don't really use since I don't plan on getting my doctorate like originally planned, and switched to a job within the USOC that I really enjoy.

Maybe it's just my perception, but I just don't see Lauren as a motivated person willing to put in the work to make a career change. I think she would rather just model clothes and makeup on social media.

JMOAA

This is what I see. I see a sweeter version of Andi and Kaitlyn. She is every bit as entitled as they are IMO, she just does it with the blank eyes and a half smile or duck lips instead of the smirk and sneer of Kaitlyn. If I start to see Lauren actually work hard at something I will maybe change my mind.  Even her blog, if she actually manages to do it and keep it going I will be impressed at her following through at something.  For now she is just the kinder, gentler, more boring version of Andi to me. JMO.

I do think they have wonderful families both of them and I don't think Lauren is a bad person, she is just a little lazy and entitled IMO.

Ohhhh, I am so disappointed in you!     I agree with you more times than not but on this, I just can't, **edited**

I follow Benlo on all sm outlets **edited** I have gathered by some of her interviews that she does have a job and she and Ben have attended several charity events.  Just because we don't see her in her flight attendant uniform doesn't mean she is sitting at home eating bon bons waiting for Ben to come home to entertain her.  

Come on girl!  Join the team!  

BTW, I hope their show isn't boring and I hope it's a short run show.  I'm looking forward to watching.  I think you might learn who the true Lauren really is.  ( I still love reading your thoughts.  :cutesmile!: )

As long as the show isn't like that awful Jonas Brothers reality show, I'm down! Boy was that bad....
IMO.