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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
peggy0221 wrote:sosleepy wrote:peggy0221 wrote:To be honest, I don't get why telling someone to eat more because they are thin is bullying. This could already tear her down? And how this is about Ben not picking JoJo? She does look unhealthily thin in that photo.
Obviously, being a Lauren B h@ter myself don't read through the comments, but from what I have seen here, and little I saw over Ben's IG post, the comments toward Lauren were mild, but, mean posts were the back and forth name calling between fans and trolls, which are not quite about Lauren B.
Because anorexia and bulimia (Lauren was accused of having both) are very serious mental health disorders, not to be diagnosed by a$$hats glancing at a picture. And if they are truly concerned for her health and well being (ha! Yeah right), calling her out like that is quite probably the least helpful thing they could do for anyone in that situation.
Skinny shaming is hurtful and cruel. To me, it's no different than ragging on someone for being obese. Lauren's mother and sister have her same slender build. This is (very likely) who she is, based on her genetic makeup. It's cruel to rag on her and imply otherwise. Hateful.
I don't know, I mean it still feels very mild to me.
I would rather people say I'm overly skinny than overweight at anytime.
It's mild until you are the victim. I was skinny all my life and did everything to gain weight. Nothing helped me to gain and then I hit menopause and I finally got that weight gain. Believe me, I would rather be skinny. I'm not over weight now but my middle spread out! Like others have said, it's no different than someone being ridiculed for being over weight. No matter how much you might want to ignore the comments, those words get in your head and it is very hard to ignore how people see you.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
IMO it's clear bullying when these trolls fill IG comments with body shaming. It's not one comment or ten, there are hundreds. If anyone starts to feel insecure or even depressed over receiving hundreds of shaming comments, they're not in the wrong. It's normal to feel hurt. We also don't know what goes on in these people's lives, the mean comments could be the icing on the cake, the last straw, and could cause real damage.
I actually don't think Lauren is that hurt, but more 'angry' if you will, IMO her last comment about being the same weight as before the show were fighting words. I think she thinks it's all stupid, and bunch of strangers talking bs. But I think she likes interacting on sm, and these comments kind of ruin it. Jmo of course.
I actually don't think Lauren is that hurt, but more 'angry' if you will, IMO her last comment about being the same weight as before the show were fighting words. I think she thinks it's all stupid, and bunch of strangers talking bs. But I think she likes interacting on sm, and these comments kind of ruin it. Jmo of course.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
If she/they let these comments get to them this much could put a strain on their relationship. Ben posting certain photos and then deleting them are just egging the trolls on more. IMO.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
Jojo has rabid fans. Do you actually hear of Jojo getting much hate from Lauren's fans?
If Jojo's fake boobs is attacked, this will be considered bullying but calling Lauren bulimic or anorexic is not.
If Jojo's fake boobs is attacked, this will be considered bullying but calling Lauren bulimic or anorexic is not.
It goes without saying...everything I say is IMO.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
Dear Lauren/Ben, the block button is your friend. Use it and eliminate the trolls.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
Or make your SM private and only let your friends see it. Many solutions.
Body shaming is not okay, but many have had no problem calling Alex short and I have a nephew who is Alex's height, with the rest of the family being men well over 6 feet he stands out and has actually had serious depression issues about it.
I don't think this is okay, but by responding it turned into now two stories listed on my yahoo news page. I think the point most of us have made is that trolling is a bad thing, but all of us claiming society should change isn't stopping it. So it would be best if Lauren keeps ignoring as she did for a long time, block as many have or make her SM private. Because as a public figure it will happen and responses to it and even her supporters arguing with the trolls in comments just makes the trolls happy and makes them go harder.
Body shaming is not okay, but many have had no problem calling Alex short and I have a nephew who is Alex's height, with the rest of the family being men well over 6 feet he stands out and has actually had serious depression issues about it.
I don't think this is okay, but by responding it turned into now two stories listed on my yahoo news page. I think the point most of us have made is that trolling is a bad thing, but all of us claiming society should change isn't stopping it. So it would be best if Lauren keeps ignoring as she did for a long time, block as many have or make her SM private. Because as a public figure it will happen and responses to it and even her supporters arguing with the trolls in comments just makes the trolls happy and makes them go harder.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
You know I'm all for it making the news. Make your SM private is fine, but the aholes will still be aholes, on to the next pseudo celeb. Sometimes they deserve to be told off. They're lucky this isn't Kaitlyn.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
I really don't think she's giving too much thought to this. She's got so many great things happening around her. She's posting on snap with friends today. Life is good. The Lauren I grew to like this season is way too in tune with what really matters to let this stuff get her down. Obviously I'm sure it stings, but she's not crippled by this and I certainly don't think it's taking a toll on their relationship, probably making them stronger. Probably kills Ben that he can't make it stop though.
Ben deleting that pic was the best thing he could have done. Shut down the conversation immediately. He was posting about charity for goodness sakes. He wasn't going to let that nonsense continue on his picture and for his cause. I say it again, good for him. He'll be careful with future postings and it's probably for the best. They should just continue to use snap, this way they can share things but no one can leave their nasty comments.
Ben deleting that pic was the best thing he could have done. Shut down the conversation immediately. He was posting about charity for goodness sakes. He wasn't going to let that nonsense continue on his picture and for his cause. I say it again, good for him. He'll be careful with future postings and it's probably for the best. They should just continue to use snap, this way they can share things but no one can leave their nasty comments.
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Re: Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #2
bleuberry wrote:Telling someone to eat more is about as tactful as telling an overweight person to get on a diet. I hear it hurts just as much, though I haven't beenblessedtested with this particular problem. Wah.
Hurtful, maybe.
But bulling? Really?
Not to mentioned, I see half of those IG comments were Ben's followers name calling the trolls. They made things worse for the couple seriously.
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peggy0221 wrote:bleuberry wrote:Telling someone to eat more is about as tactful as telling an overweight person to get on a diet. I hear it hurts just as much, though I haven't beenblessedtested with this particular problem. Wah.
Hurtful, maybe.
But bulling? Really?
Not to mentioned, I see half of those IG comments were Ben's followers name calling the trolls. They made things worse for the couple seriously.
Oh yes. Cyber bullying through social media is a HUGE deal right now. I'm a SAHM, but my background is in school counseling. Huge issue, huge deal. Fastest, easiest, and most hurtful way to bully, bar none. It's a different world out there, even from when I was growing up, and I'm only in my 30's.
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