THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

kimberlyg wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

kimberlyg wrote:I didn't see Chase's limo thing, so maybe that's it!  Although his "biggest date fear" from his bio is that some girl will fall in love with him and he's not into it, which, I dunno...  kind of rubs me the wrong way.
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Hmm... I haven't read any of the bios of the guys but that is interesting.
I  guess I could see it as Chase having a fear of hurting people and not wanting to hurt someone?

I get it, but I'll just say as someone who's been the one to "fall in love with someone who's not into it," it just kind of rubs me the wrong way.  Like, dude, nip it in the bud before you get to the point of her falling in love.  But he seems very sweet from the clip of him and JoJo and the "snow", so I can give him a pass on the bio comment .

He also (at least from the clip) doesn't seem like a fake "nice guy," like Farmer Chris, I'll give him that!

I see where you are coming from but like you said I think he seems very sweet so far but who knows. Just based on the show so far he seems adorable and genuine.

I think that's why I haven't read any bios yet. From sleuthing I have found that it confuses me more when it comes to the show itself (F1 sleuthing and the like). Sometimes though those things reveal the person outside of the show or help gauge if the contestant is like who they are edited to be (with Bach NZ S2 that was the case for me).

I think I will stick to not reading bios for the guys though. I am enjoying this season sleuthing just with the edit of contestants so far. Really makes it fun and less about the person off the show in a way, which I like.

To me, reading the bios is a sleuthing somewhat . Plus, it's helpful when there are a ton of guys and you can't tell anyone apart. But it sounds like from experience from the NZ show that you have a reason not to read the bios. (Is that where Richie is from? I'm in the US and don't watch the "other" Bachelor shows).

O/T Richie is from the Australian show (he is in my avi). He was on Bette AU S1 and Richie is now the new Bach AU S4 (first time Australia has had a returnee male lead). Richie is my favorite contestant ever so I am hoping he is going to be my favorite lead, too when his season airs later this year. Katiebelle, Peggy, Litta, myself and others sleuthing non-spoiled for JoJo's season sleuthed for Bette AU season that Rihie was on as well. They had bios for the men too and were helpful in a way (usually after the show) but not as much as the s/caps and edit sleuthing.

IA though that that all sleuthing is good and helpful and definitely bio pics help to keep track of contestants. For JoJo's season though I have screenshots of all the guys out of limo and look at them to identify easier with the episode instead of bio pics (I find those don't usually always look like the contestant as much as a screenshot). Posting while watching helps me too as I just post the name I see on the screen and then look at what I posted and makes it easier to remember during the episode.

That's smart . I think after the first two weeks it's easier to keep track of people. And thanks for the background on the Bachelor Foreign editions!

NP @kimberlyg if ever you want to watch there are links in their threads on the forum and also can sleuth when the season airs (usually links posted within hours of it airing). Love to have you and others join

That Chajo (???) snow video is too much. I kinda love it. I wonder if it was his idea or producer-driven knowing that JoJo really was digging him?

So, I re-watched their interactions and noticed that after the mustache stuff, they immediately cut to Chase walking into the mansion. I really would've liked to see their real hello after the quirkiness. Maybe it said a lot?

During their M/G time, JoJo seemed nervous! That may bode well for Chase. They were sitting rather far apart, perhaps due to nerves and physical tension (the best kind, if you catch my dirft!)

I also noticed that the camera was up very close to her face ( and reactions) to what he was saying. 
 (my own sc)
What was also interesting is before her time with Chase aired she was saying in VO that she wasn't sure this process was going to work for her due to lack of immediate connection, but as the night progressed, she did feel that instant connection-->cut to her & Chase. And not much time with him was shown.
This is a pairing I could get behind!

And then when JoJo came in with the FIR, they locked eyes as he was trying to move to make space for her on the couch ( I don't think she sat down):
 
When she left the room with Jordan, his reaction:
 
Before the first name was called during RC, an audible deep breath:
 
(all my own SC's)
Also, camera panned to his reaction immediately after first two names called (Luke & Wells).

I loved that moment. It was what I noticed straight away that he reacted to not getting FIR. Chase was also shown doing ITM right after Luke got the first RC rose so just before camera panned to Chase's reaction after Wells got the rose after Luke.

The camera focusing on Chase so much at RC and his reaction to not getting FIR really caught my attention straight away! I am really likely Chase. I think he may be my favorite from this season already! Don't let me down Chase!

If he is F1 and seems to be as nice as he is so far I think JoJo will be a lucky lady indeed. He made it snow for her (okay producers involved, but still!). I just hope he is not heartbroken F2. Rather F3 and next lead please than F2.

AllAboutLove wrote:
I loved that moment. It was what I noticed straight away that he reacted to not getting FIR. Chase was also shown doing ITM right after Luke got the first RC rose so just before camera panned to Chase's reaction after Wells got the rose after Luke.

The camera focusing on Chase so much at RC and his reaction to not getting FIR really caught my attention straight away! I am really likely Chase. I think he may be my favorite from this season already! Don't let me down Chase!

If he is F1 and seems to be as nice as he is so far I think JoJo will be a lucky lady indeed. He made it snow for her (okay producers involved, but still!). I just hope he is not heartbroken F2. Rather F3 and next lead please than F2.  

I don't think I would've put Chase in the F3 category initially until I saw the Thailand caps during preview. 
Then I had to go back and take a closer look and reassess. So no intro, had very little screen time during cocktail party, and was kind of lumped with Robby's ITM judgement of "the goofy guys who are drinking too much vs. the successful normal ones", etc. But then the VOs and camera pans/reactions, especially during the FIR & RC are starting to build that strong case for Chase (much like JP & Chris S.)
However, it's also much like JoJo during Ben's season (she also didn't have an intro). 
With no confirmed SCs yet of Jordan in Thailand we don't know how far he goes, but maybe it was hot and heavy in the beginning and the flame got extinguished by someone JoJo felt safe and more emotionally intimate with? (Like Trista and Charlie vs. Ryan). We shall see! And I'm excited about it.

Clarification - The only scaps that get posted are s/caps from epi's that have aired or for previews of the following week because those have aired as well. That link is coming from a site that has spoilers, and the epi's haven't aired which is a spoiler from outside sources.

If you see a s/cap somewhere else, that has already aired, and you want to bring it over, you save it, upload it, post it, add the source with a warning as to where it's coming from.

The only media that gets posted are blogs. The ABC site is full of spoilers. Again, if you want to capture a s/cap that's fine, however you must provide a link for source and warn there may be spoilers.

Press releases are spoilers. Sleuthing non spoiled means you sleuth what's been aired without any other information. Press releases talk about the next weeks episode. Bio's are spoilers. Other than name and occupation, nothing from the bio is aired, therefore it's a spoiler.

I hope this clarifies it. TYIA

Question for @nd4reality because I recall you being good with this type of info on Juan Pablo's season -- when does the 2-1 date typically occur? On what episode number? Going from _?_ guys to _?_ guys? Can you help me fill in the blanks? TIA

Litta123 wrote:Question for @nd4reality because I recall you being good with this type of info on Juan Pablo's season -- when does the 2-1 date typically occur? On what episode number? Going from _?_ guys to _?_ guys? Can you help me fill in the blanks? TIA

In the 8 guys to 6 guys episode.