Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*- #2

According to @HEA's screen cap for Monday's (tonight in NZ) episode Erin has a rose so nope she's not next to go except she is holding a fake rose

mercieme wrote:According to @HEA's screen cap for Monday's (tonight in NZ) episode Erin has a rose so nope she's not next to go except she is holding a fake rose

oohhh I forgot THAT detail!!!

jen689 wrote:

HEA wrote:I have another nagging feeling... what if... what if Erin is F1?

Jordan said he likes women that are less aggressive. He gave Rebecca the first impression rose because she was sweet and honest which describes Erin. From what I can remember Erin has stayed out of the drama and has been realistic about the process. She seems to have had the best edit of the F5 JMO

And yet he sent her home for not being aggressive enough
I am not sure Jordan knows what he wants.
TBH, I still don't know who Jordan is.
jmo

Idlemess wrote:Is there a link where I can watch the episodes? Thanks!

Just click on the hashtag #BachNZ and the videos will show up on the forum (this way don't need to search for videos on different pages or threads).

Thanks AAL. You and the other ladies have been great with the updates on here and I've followed along with your commentary. Great insight and speculations

YW @Idlemess TBH, I am not sure of anything this season   It's been one of those seasons where I don't have any investment in the lead or the contestants and I think I would have thrown in the towel a long time ago if it wasn't for the forum which makes it far more fun.  

Idlemess wrote:Thanks AAL. You and the other ladies have been great with the updates on here and I've followed along with your commentary. Great insight and speculations

everyone is welcome to share their opinion here. We do not know these contestants and leads and everything goes since everything is edited to the core. So no matter who is F1, what is fun is trying to figure it out who is with the few TV elements we think we understand.

who do you think will be F1 @Idlemess ?

HEA, I have no idea. Based on who and what Jordan say he's attracted to and wants I would say Erin but has he spent significant time with her. He wants to be approach by the ladies; has she done this? Does he go to her?
Erin is kind of an enigma to me because if she really has been a wallflower, why is she still there. Under the radar?
She seems serene and graceful, a lady. She exudes an inner strength tho, imo but too self contain. She cares about her appearance. No drama for her.

In my opinion, Naz is full of energy and is vivacious and what she shares with Jordan could be a physical edit with a "you and I, we get each other so lets play"
That last episode when Naz snapped her finger and said Jordan lets go...he said she was not kidding was a real moment with him hinting that he's on to her and her ways. Naz has a fun and open personality. Naz is edgy and inviting...adventurous nature maybe the reason she had no problem posing in underwear and inviting people to her boobs, .

Fleur is looking for a mutual relationship. She's like, if I'm into this guy, then he needs to reciprocate the same interest and giving her a rose only is not going to cut it any longer. She's looking for more from him... She appears to place a value on her worth and is concern about how she is perceived.

The other two, Gabs and Kate appears to be a barrel of laughs and two who seems to be outspoken and enjoying themselves. Gabs was subtly sexy in that photo shoot.
Kate appears to be a hoot... a guy's best girlfriend.

I would like to come back on the definition of strong women.

IMO, a confident quiet woman is a strong woman. No need to be very outgoing to be strong and confident.

And this is what Jordan is looking for.

IMO, again, Storm and Erin are strong women. They are happy with who they are, do not struggle about what they want. Yet, they are very quiet and soft when they talk.

I think we need to make a difference between strong women and loud women. Strong women, IMO, is confident women.

So far, Jordan, picked the right girls with maybe the exception of Fleur who I do not find confident: her recent body pictures and interview express it very well: she excused herself all the time, her reaction last cocktail.

I personally saw Fleur way too much emotional in every ways. There is no room for playing coy few days before potentially meet the family.

I think I explained it already but if a woman refuses to talk to a guy who is interested in the woman and the woman showed already some interests into the man, what do you think the man will think: she is a player, she is not truly interested.

Lets try to reverse the situation and a man refuse to talk to the woman...

There is no ego here. It is just deception.

So she did not want to talk to him but at the rose ceremony she played the diva overly emotional (looking in the skies, looking down, sighing, blowing air, putting her hand on her heart, looking at him with puppy eyes, holding his shoulders tightly)

so what was it... a Fleur who just wanted to give Jordan a lesson because he was away a long time with naz and did not give her attention or the Fleur who finally maybe realized that playing coy could cost her way more?

Either way, I did not like the Fleur swearing and acting last episode. Lets see how she is today ... and most importantly trying to understand the edits!!

Idlemess wrote:HEA, I have no idea. Based on who and what Jordan say he's attracted to and wants I would say Erin but has he spent significant time with her. He wants to be approach by the ladies; has she done this? Does he go to her?
Erin is kind of an enigma to me because if she really has been a wallflower, why is she still there. Under the radar?
She seems serene and graceful, a lady. She exudes an inner strength tho, imo but too self contain. She cares about her appearance. No drama for her.

In my opinion, Naz is full of energy and is vivacious and what she shares with Jordan could be a physical edit with a "you and I, we get each other so lets play"
That last episode when Naz snapped her finger and said Jordan lets go...he said she was not kidding was a real moment with him hinting that he's on to her and her ways. Naz has a fun and open personality.  Naz is edgy and inviting...adventurous nature maybe the reason she had no problem posing in underwear and inviting people to her boobs, .  

Fleur is looking for a mutual relationship. She's like, if I'm into this guy, then he needs to reciprocate the same interest and giving her a rose only is not going to cut it any longer. She's looking for more from him... She appears to place a value on her worth and is concern about how she is perceived.

The other two, Gabs and Kate appears to be a barrel of laughs and two who seems to be outspoken and enjoying themselves.  Gabs was subtly sexy in that photo shoot.
Kate appears to be a hoot... a guy's best girlfriend.

Very interesting @Idlemess

I saw Erin in a middle of a couple of drama (racist comment about naz name with gab and kate; Shari comment, Anna not being there for the right reasons). It is like she is there but not there. I am thinking a lot are edited so we do not see her involved, so we cannot make a bad opinion about her.... the complete reverse with naz seen and heard every time so the public see her as the villain. I think Erin was, as you say, very aware of the cameras.

Interesting about Fleur. I think you are right. She wanted to be chased last episode and she was not. She wanted reinsurance from Jordan that she is not a number. But it backfired on her IMO.

mercieme wrote:According to @HEA's screen cap for Monday's (tonight in NZ) episode Erin has a rose so nope she's not next to go except she is holding a fake rose

I forgot about the screen cap. I've been predicting Erin would go home since the week before her single date and every episode there after since she's hasn't had many dates or much screen time



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I am a bit confused of when erin may have receive the rose

If she is part of the group date, would jordan take her on 1on1 after naz panic attack OR naz fell when jordan had his 1on1 with erin and he gave her a rose later or is she the one on parachute

the girl on parachute is blonde. And where was gab and Kate if she was not part of the group date and parachute unless she is part of the group date but not seen in the segment? It makes sense that kate was on parachute date but did not receive a rose since her position is not next to erin.

the segment show them waiting. Naz is crying. Erin seems more interested by her dress and kate look only when she leaves.

possibilities:

- jordan took a girl either fleur or gab (probably fleur after the last episode) apart in the middle of the RC
- they are all waiting jordan to arrive

my guess is : kate probably stroked again her meanness and probably said that naz was faking

That kate ignores naz, it makes sense since she hates her... but erin??