Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*- #2

Katiebelle wrote:

Karina wrote:@Katiebelle @AllAboutLove same here I am really beginning to disengage because it is becoming about which women pursue him,just not romance.

ITA!!!!

To think this time last year I was on the edge of my seat and swooning over Matilda and Art's connection. I never expected to see that again on Jordan's season (or anyone's for that matter) but I was hoping for at least maybe a 1/4 of it. Or 1/8 of it. Just some romance and chasing from Jordan...

Oh well... the bright side of it all is that you may not miss much on your holiday @Katiebelle if Jordan just keeps up with this.

Katiebelle wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:I think Jordan hit the nail on the head for himself tonight by responding to Kate who said to him he is looking for stability and he said he isn't.

So I think Jordan likes unpredictability and the ups and downs which makes him even more of a contradiction because he wants to be in control but he wants the girls to approach and then when they do they get rewarded and if they don't they get eliminated.

Then again, I think this speaks to his love of directing films, etc, where he can be in control and be a part of things where's there's twists and turns.

I almost get the sense Jordan is enjoying playing the role of making it seem like there is a connection and making a frontrunner and then bam! he eliminates the girl so he gets his "shocking" exit for frontrunners.

Maybe he is approaching the show like directing a film instead of being the lead/finding love?

Yes it's almost as if he's written the script, directed and produced his own love story.

Yeah I am thinking so... except I am not sure Jordan cares for the lovestory and romance genre as much as he does the action/adventure genre? Maybe he has a few tricks up his sleeve and will bring the romance later on?

Jordan if you're reading this and can do time travel please bring the romance. The show's nearly over and the curtain is about to close and so far "The Adventures of Jordan" is not cutting it.

Yes I'm going to miss my chats with you all more than Jordan's journey to 'love".   Although relaxing in tropical climes might cheer me up!

@AllAboutLove    has kindly offered to fill me in while I'm away so I can keep up as internet connection will be unreliable and intermittent.

I'll be back on terra firma before the finale so will enjoy reading all your posts before the big night!

Have fun!  My vote for F1 is Fleur. Let's see if I can go 2 for 2 on the Bach NZ season.

Catch you all in a couple of weeks!

Have a wonderful time @Katiebelle

I already mentioned that. People are mad at Jordan because he is not like the other bachelor or does not raise to the level of Gawd Art Green shoes. But IMHO, we never truly accepted Jordan for who he is because we have this stereotype of who a bachelor should be.

Does it mean I like him? Not so much, not my type, physically and personality. But he is who he is and I think we should not blame him for that. I think those to blame are productions who picked him. Bad choice indeed. But I can also say the same with the women casting to be honest.

Some people, still IMHO, are not meant for TV. I do not care if Jordan is or was an actor. Being an actor does not mean the person is good at it. I have many possibilities for why this season is difficult:

I honestly think that Jordan did not like most of the girls who were just one dimension.

People just dislike his poker face and I agree that it is annoying for this show because we are expecting feelings and facial expressions and enthusiasm and such. At the end of the day, I see Jordan being not at all comfortable in front of the camera and it shows when he kisses any of the girl or just because he just does not want to kiss them which is also very possible.

I do not think we should blame him that much that he likes women with strong personalities and like to be approached. We are no longer in the 50s where women just waited on their chairs at the promo!

I also believe that it is strong assumption to say that Naz is not genuine and in the show to have exposure just like Chrystal or even make any comparison with Chrystal. We do not know and will only after the show. Why blaming Naz anyway when we know that more than half of the girls, if not all, came to this show for an adventure and glamor and glitters and the fun to be on a TV show? If any of them thought that it would be great to be in the show and use it, I would say all the girls had an hidden agenda IMO

What I see today is that Naz has an incredible edit since her single date and that is a couple of episodes back now. She has romantic music and the girl I see with jordan looks natural and fun and genuine. She has the F1 edits right now IMO.

I am surprised that Storm left before hometown but then the edits showed her constant "I need time" and pouting face and she was quite cold with Jordan.

And this is why Jordan likes Naz. IMO, she is the only one who shows affection and is not afraid to play with him and flirt with him.

This said, I fail to see the similarity between Naz and Dani except their bubbly personalities. So does it mean that every single bubbly personalities will never be F1?

Fleur still has her chances but 3 episodes in a row with only this zoo 1o1 not so romantic time IMO. Fleur is still a great girl but I fail to see any real body language between them that say more than friends. The way they left each other at the zoo screamed friend zone to me. So maybe if she has a single date, my opinion will change. I had the same feeling with Matilda and we all know how it ended! So Fleur can very be F1.

I just remember that Dani got a lot of ITM and she also posted a lot of picture of the show on her IG and facebook. We know the end.

Now, Gab..... I truly think that she is the dark horse but the edits are so weird because I saw no building romantic story between them. It was BAM, here I am, lets kiss.

Same with Erin I must say.

Kate... really?

I wonder if Storm asked to leave because she did not want to go further with it and involve her family and this is why Kate is still in it?

Great recap everyone....at least our speculation was correct about Storm leaving. Storm posted the below on her IG in response to folks saying that they were upset Jordan sent her home. So who knows if Storm just sensed Jordan was not into her & wanted out.

storm_halkett Not sad at all guys! I was very eager to leave x (emoji) thanks for all the support!

From the episode guide for next Monday, I still think Kate gets the SD but I can't tell which girl will be left in tears at the RC...It should be interesting who goes next because Jordan is letting them go once they don't chase him IMO except Kate I guess

mercieme wrote:Great recap everyone....at least our speculation was correct about Storm leaving. Storm posted the below on her IG in response to folks saying that they were upset Jordan sent her home. So who knows if Storm just sensed Jordan was not into her & wanted out.

storm_halkett Not sad at all guys! I was very eager to leave x (emoji) thanks for all the support!

From the episode guide for next Monday, I still think Kate gets the SD but I can't tell which girl will be left in tears at the RC...It should be interesting who goes next because Jordan is letting them go once they don't chase him IMO except Kate I guess

So my suggestion that it was her choice to leave that night and it was maybe per-aranged can be very correct. I think she totally freaked out the presentation to her family and the consequences of being F1

When in fact, not sure who at the cocktail, said that jordan told her that he had no intention to propose at the end.

And that is that. Jordan took this journey as a dating place, narrowing to the one the most compatible but at the end, just go on just like a normal new couple who just met without pressure.

And maybe we have our response. He tried, it did not work and now he is single.

@HEA...I just think Storm wanted more time with Jordan to have the assurance & once she didn't get it mentally checked out. The lead is supposed to chase his F1 & clearly Storm knew she wasn't being chased...that was astute on her part IMO.

I really do believe Jordan was going through the motions with some of the girls & also that some of the girls were not that into Jordan as well e.g. Shari, Ceri, Nicky etc

I still can't call the F1....it will make sense to be Fleur as she seems very into Jordan but I won't be shocked if she is not. I do agree that Gabs is a wildcard. The bigger surprise for me is that the girls we saw as MOT (Kate, Erin) are still on the show

@mercieme -yes. kate and erin? realy? Erin maybe a bit more since she had a SD and few moments at RC but kate? Kate is just WTH? he asked her litterally to reconsider but never give her a SD... unless it is next episode

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the S/caps I made looks in this direction


group date with Fleur, Erin and Naz (no glimpses of Gabs)

Group date with 3: Fleur, Erin and Naz (did not see Gabs) - obviously Naz fell into the sea and panicked. Jordan rushed to her rescue and spend a lot of time with Naz and was very affectionate which was probably a weak up call for Fleur.




the girl is blonde. I believe it is Kate. we can here: O my god.
parachute with kate which is definitely not the best date to know a person IMO



Erin has a rose and kate does not. the position is that they always moves to their right and the girl who receive a rose goes on top line on the left. Erin is looking at her dress and looks disinterested (did she receive a rose at the group date?) Erin would not do that if it was in a middle of the ceremony. My take is that jordan asked someone to speak with in the middle of the ceremony or a girl ask him to speak with him. I have some gut feelings it is Fleur. Not sure why Naz has this melting down.







note: Fleur was truly shaking at the last RC. I think she was a bit too sure of herself and realized that she may be not the favorite after all. It is the first time she is in last 2 girls. I also think that her refusal to speak with Jordan at the RC did not do her any favor. I noticed that Naz got her time when it was sunset and they return when it was full dark so I am sure Naz and Jordan spent a lot of time together and Fleur (and the others) were very annoyed about waiting. Heck maybe this rebellious 'no I will pass' from Fleur and jordan did not like this little game.

I really think that naz will not leave. This teaser is just for drama IMO

What I find weird is that Naz truly cries and none of the girl next to her care one bit. I can almost see a smirk on kate's face even. So I am guessing that kate who truly dislike naz, was mean with her, who knows. Kate think that whatever naz say or do is fake. But we all saw that her single date was truly nice. I saw no fake in that date whatsoever.

I don't know...if Kate does not get a rose on her SD I think she is smart enough to actually leave especially since she once wanted to leave. It could well be Naz leaving though...I can totally see Naz being in tears when she leaves

yes but it does not make sense that naz is having a melt down. She is at a good place with Jordan so what is going on?

Kate has no rose or she would be placed next to Erin.

So I am thinking that kate pushed and had a cat fight with naz telling her she fake her drama at the group date. I truly think that kate was not part of the group date so kate got only gossips of what happened and since kate truly dislike naz... I dunno, the body language tells me that:

- kate had a mean cat fight with naz
- fleur asked to speak to jordan and they went away for a chat
- naz got emotional because erin may have received a rose during the group date

I think we are in for our money on RC4

Never, the prods would show us Naz leaving in a teaser or they would spoil the show and they said that this season they made sure to hide as much as possible. So it does not make sense to tease us that Naz is leaving. she is not. I am pretty positive on this.

@HEA....I haven't seen the episode. Did the preview for Monday show Erin with a rose or you are just speculating based on the RC positions that Erin has a rose.....TIA.

If that's the case I can see Fleur losing it a bit if Erin got the rose from the GD...yikes.