Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*- #2

check the s/caps above.

however, we can say that IF it is kate who got a SD, based on her position, she did not get a rose

what's truly annoys me is that naz looks truly upset and we clearly see tears. It is not like faking crying, she is. And none of the girls seems to care one bit.

sorry, but this is a nono for me. Naz is not a b!tch. She is far from a villain. Yes, she was not perfect before her first SD but I truly think she was associated villain because of claudia and the famous hit list thing.

It seems that we have a lot of girls saying that they were upset it was jordan. So IMO, Naz heard those girls in private complaining and prods played with that. I dunno, something is out of proportion here.

Great thanks I have checked the preview for next Monday out & Erin does have a rose. Yeah maybe Naz leaves the RC & then dear Jordan begs her to stay....who knows. I also wonder maybe no elimination on next Monday's episode if there will still be 4 HTDs.

Next Tuesday's episode description only references a group date only...if there is a single date though, I won't be surprised if it's Gabs or Erin.

Mike Puru supposedly shared a picture of Naz on his SM, that indicates IMO that production loved Naz because she gave them story lines & drama that made the show. To be honest without Naz this season is a bust because Jordan clearly has not carried the show. Even Art wrote on his Women's Day NZ blog that the season will be boring without Naz. I personally prefer the lead to chase their F1 but hey not sure what's up with dear Jordan. It also appears more folks are turning in Naz's corner now, she has the highest # of followers on IG excluding Claudia who had a business before coming to the show.

I still think Naz makes F3 but doubt she is F1.....all JMO.

The girl on parachute has blond hair. so I truly think it is finally Kate.

I just could not pinpoint Naz edits... what if...

Naz arrived and went thru all the obstacles (girls, drama, jealousy) and no matter what, she finally ended standing the last.

How prods/edits was it to read naz horoscope and how convenient it was not a nice one like the leo one....which is Fleur!!!

I thought... what on earth! this stage mansion girls talk while naz was on her single date, then kate ITM calling naz a fake and liar (other words used but the meaning was there).

The only girl who said she saw a connection was Erin. Everybody else put naz in the friend zone or the fake zone.... when we clearly saw a different story with Jordan.

I did not like naz when she was with claudia. I had preconceived notions that she was inded fake but after her first single date, I change my mind and she started to grow on me.

If Jordan liked naz insta about her singing. If he came out at the same time as naz last week about the bullied medias...

I dunno. I am thinking Naz F1.

But I do not exclude Gabs or Fleur from the equation although I do not see much romance with Fleur anymore... friends yes, potential lovers no.

From next Monday's episode description it is Kate on the SD IMO.

The ITM of Jordan describing Fleur as cocky last night's episode appears to have been done later because Jordan was in the same outfit for other prior ITMs. So obviously that's not a good thing to say about his F1 if it's Fleur. The fact that Fleur was also shown swearing at Naz during last night's RC was also interesting. Regardless bared on the little connection Jordan has demonstrated it only makes sense that Fleur is F1 but I am leaving room for it to be Gabs or Erin at this point.

I am wondering if Naz breaking down was before Jordan got to the RC instead of during the RC with Jordan like they made it look in the preview.

Possibly.

I have to admit that I do not like much the edits for Fleur for the last 3 episodes.

- she did not like his present (painting)
- she kissed him as a friend at the end of the 1on1 zoo date
- she was very cocky with Naz and him (showing probably her jealousy that jordan spent a lot of time with naz IMO)
- she did not have 1on1 time at cocktail
- she did not have 1on1 time at group date

Even if they agreed on the number of kids they would like. It is hardly a strong argument that she is a great match and potential F1. (If I had to marry all the guys they agreed on this, I would be a female Mormon today   : )

Anyways. Edits are not good for Fleur. But I feel they are better and better with Gabs.

I am not sure on this and I am counting on your memory but isn't it only 2 girls who asked how Jordan felt about this journey (Naz and Gabs)?

here are a bunch of S/caps I made.

I found those 2 extremely interesting.

first erin looked at Fleur, then she looked at Gabs but possibly Naz. She looked fleur up in her eyes and I think she does the same with Naz who is smaller than Gabs or her head whould have been more turned to Gabs IMO
Lets remember that erin is the only one who said that she saw a connection with naz and jordan

more S/Caps I made

It was a bit over dramatic IMO but I think it was genuine. I also saw her shaking in front of jordan. Jordan seems a bit cold too...

can anyone tell me which episode kate was wearing this dress?
this is an ITM where she (again) pull down Naz.
I do not remember this


my s/caps (HEA)

Yes @HEA both Gabs & Naz have asked how he is feeling.

IA Fleur's edit is all over the place for an F1 but she still has the typical F1 SM show postings in her favor per @Allaboutlove's sleuthing.

I don't think we can discard Gabs though. A few things to that effect: Rebecca in her NZ girl interview said Gabs was the one that liked Jordan the most of all the girls. And then Ceri & some of the other girls have picked Gabs as a potential F1. So maybe Fleur & Gabs are F2.

There was an IG post that Fleur deleted last week: it was about getting ready for a Woman's Day photo shoot & Gabs responded "see you tomorrow" under the post. We have not yet seen the photo shoot in Woman's Day yet...it could be the F4 shoot like he was for Art's season. The placement on the photo shoot should help decipher the F1 as well....all JMO.

HEA wrote:can anyone tell me which episode kate was wearing this dress?
this is an ITM where she (again) pull down Naz.
I do not remember this


my s/caps (HEA)

I think it was Monday Episode 13 episode....not too sure though.

It looks like they spent a lot of time together.

Kate: you've been away for a while...
Jordan: yes, we had much to talk about
Fleur: (can someone tell me what she said exactly when she refused the 1on1?

S/caps I made, and yes it looks like they stay a long time together




note: jordan asking naz what he should do if she was at his place can be seen as immaturity or he trust naz a lot to share what he is feeling or he put her in the friend zone. Not sure at this point.

mercieme wrote:

HEA wrote:can anyone tell me which episode kate was wearing this dress?
this is an ITM where she (again) pull down Naz.
I do not remember this

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my s/caps (HEA)

I think it was Monday Episode 13 episode....not too sure though.

so it is interesting they included this ITM on this episode then, no? to accentuate the fact that kate does not like naz or naz is not what she looks like.

Question: was kate always catty about naz from episode 1? I do not recall her but only since naz had her first SD