Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*- #2

mercieme wrote:Yes @HEA both Gabs & Naz have asked how he is feeling.

IA Fleur's edit is all over the place for an F1 but she still has the typical F1 SM show postings in her favor per @Allaboutlove's sleuthing.

I don't think we can discard Gabs though. A few things to that effect: Rebecca in her NZ girl interview said Gabs was the one that liked Jordan the most of all the girls. And then Ceri & some of the other girls have picked Gabs as a potential F1. So maybe Fleur & Gabs are F2.

There was an IG post that Fleur deleted last week: it was about getting ready for a Woman's Day photo shoot & Gabs responded "see you tomorrow" under the post. We have not yet seen the photo shoot in Woman's Day yet...it could be the F4 shoot like he was for Art's season. The placement on the photo shoot should help decipher the F1 as well....all JMO.

That's my questioning here.
Dani was on SM a lot, she posted a lot of picture of herself including this wedding dress. Yet she was F2.
Matilda was on contrary very low profile.

So I fail to see how Fleur has the F1 edits because for sure I do not see romance with jordan right now...

Dani = Fleur
Matilda = Gabs or Naz

Both Gabs and Naz did not do much in SM right? That is typical of F1 no?

VERY interesting about woman's shooting and you are probably right. This would be a HUGE clue of who are the top 4. So spoiling next episode for sure. I never had a doubt Fleur is top 4. I truly think Kate is leaving next episode.

HEA wrote:The girl on parachute has blond hair. so I truly think it is finally Kate.

I just could not pinpoint Naz edits... what if...

Naz arrived and went thru all the obstacles (girls, drama, jealousy) and no matter what, she finally ended standing the last.

How prods/edits was it to read naz horoscope and how convenient it was not a nice one like the leo one....which is Fleur!!!

I thought... what on earth! this stage mansion girls talk while naz was on her single date, then kate ITM calling naz a fake and liar (other words used but the meaning was there).

The only girl who said she saw a connection was Erin. Everybody else put naz in the friend zone or the fake zone.... when we clearly saw a different story with Jordan.

I did not like naz when she was with claudia. I had preconceived notions that she was inded fake but after her first single date, I change my mind and she started to grow on me.

If Jordan liked naz insta about her singing. If he came out at the same time as naz last week about the bullied medias...

I dunno. I am thinking Naz F1.

But I do not exclude Gabs or Fleur from the equation although I do not see much romance with Fleur anymore... friends yes, potential lovers no.

I totally agree with your post. Some of the main things I put in bold. When Claudia was there I couldn't stand to watch Naz, but after Claudia left there was a softer Naz left to watch who really had Jordon's best interest in mind and who Jordon enjoys spending time with. Whether it be that he really likes her or just that she stokes his ego is to be seen.

I saw for the first time Jordon acting as tho he cared if somebody was there..If Naz wasn't pulling him away, he was pilling her aside. Their date today was just a simple date just like Ceri's was, but what made the difference is that Jordon was present during this date with Naz where as he really wasn't with Ceri.

I can totally see Naz as the F1 and so does the girls left which is what makes them act as they do towards her. They see her as a threat or they could just shrug off her antics of getting time with Jordon.

But if we are gonna be surprised as Jordon says we will be I see Erin as F1. She's always been a back burner girl, but I think there is more there than we have seen esp if she gets a rose and does the HTD. I need to rewatch her times with him.

I have always felt like Fleur would be F1 even when they were shoving Storm down out throats. Main reason being is I don't think Jordon is looking for that hot, passionate love like most look for.. I think he is looking for someone to spend time with, travel with, to stroke his ego, have fun with and at the end of the day when it doesn't progress any further he can always say, Well I tried. I'm not saying Jordon is a bad guy at all. I don't think he is. I just find at this point in his life this is all he's looking for and this is just my honest opinion.

Heck, I don't know, he may choose Mike at the end lololololololol BTW when is his birthday? Does anybody know?

I don't think every F1 is low profile - many are not (Sasha, Snez, Whitney, etc..) and are active and post pics or retweet pics of themselves with the lead, especially intimate ones. Also, most F2's do not post intimate pics - Dani was an exception (I don't recall recent F2s for Bach AU/US posting lots of kissing pics on their SM?).

As for a low profile, Storm was very low profile and never posted any pics of her and Jordan and yet was eliminated and she was said to be possible F1 by past contestants so not much correlations there. Plus, Jordan posted a pic of him with Storm and she is gone, same with Rebecca and others.

Also for Matilda - she may not have posted many pics on her IG but she liked pretty much every single IG pic/tweet of her and Art while the show was airing. She also followed all of Art's sisters and friends (and they followed her) and liked all their pics.

Sometimes I think it is more what the lead is doing or not doing that may be a clue rather than what the contestants are doing?  One thing I see in common between Fleur and Matilda regarding the lead is that Art never directly liked pics of Matilda on her IG nor commented to her Twitter while the show aired but he did so for the non-F1s. I see the same so far with Jordan regarding Fleur.

@LoveDovez  LOL @ Mike comment

We think the same at this point. We had Storm ad nauseam as a decoy. And now I feel as if we have Kate ad nauseam about bitching Naz

I think you are totally right. Jordan is not looking for happy ever after at the end. He wants friendship, then potentially move on to the love part. He is very aware that no commitment can be made is such a short time.

And this is where I am not comfortable with Fleur as F1. She acted over dramatic at the rose ceremony. This kind of attics is not Jordan. He spent only few hours with Fleur, one SD, few 1on1 but it looks like she is already madly in love with him. Call me crazy but I saw a little bit of fear or uneasiness for sure when he gave her a rose, probably showing him that they are not at the same level at all.

Gabs, Erin and Naz are more what he is looking for IMO. But the only one I truly saw some romance so far is Naz. But I can totally be wrong and this is his way to show friendship?

@LoveDovez...I don't know Jordan's birthday just that he is 32 according to the show.

I am also beginning  to get fascinated by Erin. Jordan assured her she was more than a number so if there is a SD next Tuesday Episode 16, I think either Gabs or Erin might get it. It seems Erin has been shown to be the most compassionate about the other girls in the last couple of episodes, first it was being happy for Storm getting the second date, then saying that she saw Naz's connection with Jordan. And for next Monday's preview it seems that Erin also attended to Naz when she had her water episode. Anyways I am liking Erin's no drama edit but I am just not convinced Jordan is that into her....we shall see though.....all JMO.

mercieme wrote:@LoveDovez...I don't know Jordan's birthday just that he is 32 according to the show.

I am also beginning  to get fascinated by Erin. Jordan assured her she was more than a number so if there is a SD next Tuesday Episode 16, I think either Gabs or Erin might get it. It seems Erin has been shown to be the most compassionate about the other girls in the last couple of episodes, first it was being happy for Storm getting the second date, then saying that she saw Naz's connection with Jordan. And for next Monday's preview it seems that Erin also attended to Naz when she had her water episode. Anyways I am liking Erin's no drama edit but I am just not convinced Jordan is that into her....we shall see though.....all JMO.

Ok Thanks Maybe the reason Erin can see the connection between Jordon and Naz is that she has the strongest connection with him and we just aren't seeing it. They aren't showing it for sure. Maybe this is their way of keeping their promise of keeping the F1 hidden this season.

One thing for sure the edit has been all over the place this season, but even tho it's been that way I can still normally pick out the F1 by now, but I'm still in the dark, on the fence and all other things.. This season has me

@LoveDovez......you are not alone. This season is a hot mess with the edit IMO. Though I go back to Mike Puru forewarning that we won't easily be able to tell the F1 unlike Art's season.

I think once we get the HTDs & F4 photo shoot, we should have more confidence on who the F1 is. For me I am not expecting a romantic FRC regardless of who Jordan chooses. I am just looking forward to the live reunion because it's going to be reveal more about Jordan since we have yet to see him do any media rounds except the Mike Puru show.

I thought Kate hilarious. All the previous episode she was b!tching about Naz. But her face when she returned from her SD are totally priceless IMO

So I made some S/caps

I think the edit is a hot mess because it reflects Jordan's actions and the editors can only use what is given to them.

Most of the girls Jordan was interested in early on and got SDs are eliminated or there is no progression shown with their relationship or he went from hot to cold (he said he would be gutted if Storm left but he seemed just fine with her leaving) and is contradictory.

So I think the season is unpredictable and all over the place because Jordan is unpredictable, contradictory, and all over the place.

mercieme wrote: @LoveDovez......you are not alone. This season is a hot mess with the edit IMO. Though I go back to Mike Puru forewarning that we won't easily be able to tell the F1 unlike Art's season.

I think once we get the HTDs & F4 photo shoot, we should have more confidence on who the F1 is. For me I am not expecting a romantic FRC regardless of who Jordan chooses. I am just looking forward to the live reunion because it's going to be reveal more about Jordan since we have yet to see him do any media rounds except the Mike Puru show.

@ Mercieme I totally agree. Wonder when the photo shoot will come out for us to see? If we learn anything about Jordon at the live reunion it will be a lot more than I know about him right now I know less about him than any Bachelor I've ever watched and I've watched them all.. Who was the lady he was in a long term relationship with? The blond from Art's season? Are there any pictures on sm of them? I'd love to see how he looks at someone that he is supposed to love. He's a mystery to me

HEA wrote:I thought Kate hilarious. All the previous episode she was b!tching about Naz. But her face when she returned from her SD are totally priceless IMO

So I made some S/caps

Altho I don't see Kate with Jordon, in real life, I could see her being an amazing friend that I would have totally love being around in my younger years. : )

AllAboutLove wrote:
I think the edit is a hot mess because it reflects Jordan's actions and the editors can only use what is given to them.

Most of the girls Jordan was interested in early on and got SDs are eliminated or there is no progression shown with their relationship or he went from hot to cold (he said he would be gutted if Storm left but he seemed just fine with her leaving) and is contradictory.

So I think the season is unpredictable and all over the place because Jordan is unpredictable, contradictory, and all over the place.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!