Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - MTP -LCD - FRC - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by sosleepy Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:52 pm

Fingersandtoes wrote:In what order do you guys suspect everything will happen during the episode? Two hours is a long time and then one hour AFTR.

Pretty basic formula for finale:

1. Ben talks about his conflict deciding, solo discussion with parents.
2. First girl meets mom and dad Higgins. From recap, sounds like it will be Lauren.
3. JoJo's turn to meet parents.
4. Ben talks to parents some more about the women and his indication.
5. LCD #1. Probably Lauren.
6. LCD #2. Likely JoJo and bathroom drama.
7. Ben picks out the ring. Discusses his indecision YET AGAIN.
8. Show all three getting ready for FRC, voiceovers with how they are feeling.
9. JoJo gets dumped.
10. Lauren gets engaged.

ATFR:
1. JoJo out first with Ben
2. Ben and Lauren happy couple
3. JoJo back on stage as next Bachette

The ATFR format might be switched up a bit bc for the first time ever they picked the F2.

by Kashathediva Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:57 pm

The show can only show so much of the end result, which is which couple ends up with each other and why.
So the edit can not reveal too much. Often this leaves the audience with either an "Awww" or an "Huh"?
This is why we get so much other stuff like crazy drama and hysteria. Something has to divert.

by Crazylady29 Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:58 pm

6 more hours!!!

by michelle1 Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:00 pm

Pandora wrote:I think I understand why people feel Lauren is emotionless or playing a game, but I don't think it is her fault. I think it is a problem with the love story and/or storytelling.

I feel like I don't know her or Ben and they are both presented as so white bread their compatibility is not particularly intetesting, because of the lack of information or development. I feel like I know nothing about their hopes and dreams for marriage together and am struggling to remember one single important conversation on camera that wasn't just about the show. Maybe these conversations took place, maybe not, but as they weren't shown, I can't use those to inform my opinion.

As a result, it still seems to me that Ben's primary attraction to Lauren is shallow and physical - not meaning chemistry or sensuality (those go to Jojo because she is at least portrayed with personality) - but very much stuck in this ethereal realm of first impression or love at first sight i.e. Ben is enchanted with her as if she is a Goddess sent down to Earth, not in love with her as a real, flawed person. That he cannot or will not articulate why he loves her is not a sign of specialness IMO, but of immaturity and infatuation.

hey thats very interesting but my only question to you is that, what was it about jojos interactions with him that seem to point out their view of their future?

by Alanna Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:13 pm

Pandora wrote:I think I understand why people feel Lauren is emotionless or playing a game, but I don't think it is her fault. I think it is a problem with the love story and/or storytelling.

I feel like I don't know her or Ben and they are both presented as so white bread their compatibility is not particularly intetesting, because of the lack of information or development. I feel like I know nothing about their hopes and dreams for marriage together and am struggling to remember one single important conversation on camera that wasn't just about the show. Maybe these conversations took place, maybe not, but as they weren't shown, I can't use those to inform my opinion.

As a result, it still seems to me that Ben's primary attraction to Lauren is shallow and physical - not meaning chemistry or sensuality (those go to Jojo because she is at least portrayed with personality) - but very much stuck in this ethereal realm of first impression or love at first sight i.e. Ben is enchanted with her as if she is a Goddess sent down to Earth, not in love with her as a real, flawed person. That he cannot or will not articulate why he loves her is not a sign of specialness IMO, but of immaturity and infatuation.

I agree, I can see this burning so hot and then fizzle out oh so fast, but he's so cute when he's all twitterpatted and in lurve, I hope it can last for him (whatever this means for her, I don't care, totally ambivalent). We shall see, we shall see.

by Pandora Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:18 pm

I don't know if Jojo/Ben is a good counterpoint to what I feel the Lauren/Ben relationship is missing. I was comparing what I know about Lauren/Ben to what I knew about Sean/Catherine or Sean/Lindsay. We all keep talking about how Ben is Christian, but he has maybe mentioned it himself once? In passing? Sean spoke more to that and I had more of an idea of what he comprehended marriage to mean. Even Andi talked about eventually wanting kids, if I remember correctly. Soules's season focused on where they would live, what jobs they would have. Where is any of that this season?

I just feel this season is extremely light on actual substance. That said, I think Jojo's being forced to deal with Chad and her brothers showed me more of who she was as a person and what commitment to Ben might look like than the googly eyes at Lauren and fantasy dates with the children's charity and baby turtles. No conflict between Ben and Lauren besides Leah's ridiculous accusations does not bode well for me and does not lend reality to what is supposed to be the basis of a marriage.

by Mommyof2 Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:19 pm

I actually liked JoJo's backup dress better, although it needed some alterations. It would be a good M&G dress, imo. Hugesmile

I do not like either of Lauren's dresses. Too plain.

by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:20 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
mindless wrote:18 dresses and these are the best of the bunch? Wow.
The other 14 were feed sacks. My source sent me the photos of Jade, MEandI and Kaitlyn modeling some. source

I think this is my favorite post ever!!!! cantstopl

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by northernviewer Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:36 pm

So....is Lauren still F1 and Jojo next bachelorette? Hugesmile

by Jeepers Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:37 pm

Yuppers

by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:40 pm

northernviewer wrote:So....is Lauren still F1 and Jojo next bachelorette?

I'm worried for Donnie Wahlberg.... giggling

(Thank goodness Caila is the new Bachelorette or I’d be in serious emotional crisis mode).

http://splash.suntimes.com/2016/03/14/when-boy-band-karma-meets-the-bachelor-2

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