The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - MTP -LCD - FRC - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Jeepers wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Lauren was seen filming and taking pictures in LA.  Wouldn't it be funny if Fleiss pulled a fast one on everyone and Ben picked JoJo and Lauren is the bachelorette??  

Just kidding!  I do think he picks Lauren but the thought did cross my mind!  

Where and when was Lauren filming??

My guess is they are talking the photo shoot on the beach. That is not filming IMHO. Please CMIIW.

GuardianAngel wrote:

etonline.com

"We're a team now, and teams communicate, they have to, even in situations that are tough and difficult," he explained. "I had to communicate with her, and she's been supportive and loving and caring. Understanding it's not always easy, right? We've put her through hell and back sometimes, but she's never ceased to love me and support me through it. That's why we're standing here today, and I am so excited."

While looking for this I notice everything is a mish mash quote between "we" and "I". Also in that link there is a short vid. Again wedding is discussed where Ben says he wants to show her off in public, etc. The interviewer says CH would like they get married tomorrow and Ben mentions more surprises.

I'm in awe. I knew I had read it but never in a million years would I have found it.

I don't believe the show would have cared much for the word "we" - IMO they would have much preferred a consistent "I" because the implication that there were others involved besides Ben himself starts to pierce the thin veil of reality that covers up the scripting and manipulation behind the scenes. I think they are more interested in hiding that than they are in defeating spoilers.
JMHO

Tiggerlgh wrote:But IMHO there was no evidence to show Brooks came back just the spoiler but nothing to back that up.  We can usually (if not always) figure out the ending based on the caps.

I have no doubt (ok .000001%) that Lauren is F1.

Been thinking just that myself whenever talk of foilers comes up. There was absolutely nothing to support the spoiler that season. This season IMO there's nothing to refute it - all we have supports it.

Ladybug82 wrote:But there was some evidence - lots of little possible hints, even if it was somewhat overlooked and ignored at first, pointing towards Chris.  And there were many negative points towards Brooks at the end.  

In all the sluething done, there's not much if anything that points to a foiler and Jojo as F1, IMO.

As for RS being quiet... He's probably sulking about being scooped and trying to figure out how to spin it so he can still claim he was the first to know and reveal the info.    JMO.

So true!! I will always believe that Chris was Des' true F1 based on the beautiful love story that I witnessed. I contend thete were LOADS of hints every episode. Natural progression and so much in common. Mutual admiration, reciprocated feelings. Fantastic chemistry. Wholesome and athletic. Ying and yang. No angst, no drama.

Just like Lauren and Ben.

soccermom333 wrote:Lauren was seen filming and taking pictures in LA.  Wouldn't it be funny if Fleiss pulled a fast one on everyone and Ben picked JoJo and Lauren is the bachelorette??  

Just kidding!  I do think he picks Lauren but the thought did cross my mind!  

Can you clarify? Who's filming and who's taking pictures.

Lauren did a photoshoot for "the stylist LA" .. That is the only photography that has been verified

Valerie Darling is the photographer .. She also does a lot of wedding pics

Ladybug82 wrote:But there was some evidence - lots of little possible hints, even if it was somewhat overlooked and ignored at first, pointing towards Chris.  And there were many negative points towards Brooks at the end.  

In all the sluething done, there's not much if anything that points to a foiler and Jojo as F1, IMO.

As for RS being quiet... He's probably sulking about being scooped and trying to figure out how to spin it so he can still claim he was the first to know and reveal the info.    JMO.

ITA. There's so much stuff backing up Lauren as the F1, it all can't just be coincidence.

Lucas15 wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:But IMHO there was no evidence to show Brooks came back just the spoiler but nothing to back that up.  We can usually (if not always) figure out the ending based on the caps.

I have no doubt (ok .000001%) that Lauren is F1.

Been thinking just that myself whenever talk of foilers comes up. There was absolutely nothing to support the spoiler that season. This season IMO there's nothing to refute it - all we have supports it.

I believe there were no SC of the frc in order to refute the spoiler, brooks going on a cruise (what I can remember at the moment) .... There were a number of seasoned members who posted that their sources confirmed RS spoiler ( how easy can that be?). IIRC, there was also a member who would pop in periodically who said she had friends in filming and gave up little tid bits that steered in the direction of Brooks being F1. Maybe someone else who has a better memory can fill in the blanks.

I don't think its coincidence either ... there may be a conspirancy though   ... because I remember reading a tweet by MF thanking his Viennese friend for helping to fool RS.

I don't really care who's F1 but I'm always open to the possibility that it isn't the spoiled one. It happened once so why can't it happen again.

I guess RS is just holding his info until tomorrow. I think he's done that before. Like oh hey I was wrong, but your still getting the right info before the show airs..

Duke702 wrote:I guess RS is just holding his info until tomorrow. I think he's done that before. Like oh hey I was wrong, but your still getting the right info before the show airs..

Too bad we got it here first thanks to GA! :Nod:

Of course he won't mention that.

Crazylady29 wrote:true i do remember that season. I was so expecting brooks to come back and even told my little brother just wait he comes back after brooks dumped her.... i kept waiting for it to happen then chris proposed and well yea wasn't expecting that to happen.

but still i don't think anything like that will happen and i do believe the spoilers this time.

It's not the spoilers that make me believe he picked Lauren. It because of what I watched on the show... Same goes for JOJO being the new Ette.