The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

stuckinsc wrote:I am shocked, I liked JoJo last night and am actually looking forward to her season. Maybe we can get a cupcake return? So happy Nick is not coming back. I want to like Nick again and another time on the bachelorette won't help that.

You get a big no from me on Cupcake returning. I don't trust Jojo after her family's audition type HTD. Chris will do much better off the show imo. I'm over returnees anyway these days. I'm also hoping that Becca won't be back to give advice because what kind could she give?

Your not alone, 'bean!  No to cupcake returning to be on Jojo's season.  He can continue to make appearance on The Doctors and/or occasional bach nation stuff, etc., but no to being a returnee.  I'd prefer no returnees at all.  And I fully expect to see Becca at least once (more if she can get it) during the season.

julychild wrote:

Duke702 wrote:Ali said in her snapchat she and Des are meeting up with JoJo today!

The only thing I remember about Ali's season is Chris Lambton, but I still prefer the choice of she and Des to Andi and Kaitlyn, as potential advice givers.

Sadly, I think she'll find herself listening to Andi and Kaitlyn more because they all seem quite similar, IMO.  But personally, yes, I'd prefer advice from Ali and Des.  JMO.

Kashathediva wrote:I heard Nov 25 which is Sag. I am a Sag.

As far as I know Nov 25 is her birthday

julychild wrote:

Duke702 wrote:Ali said in her snapchat she and Des are meeting up with JoJo today!

The only thing I remember about Ali's season is Chris Lambton, but I still prefer the choice of she and Des to Andi and Kaitlyn, as potential advice givers.

So true!! I hope she asked for them. They should throw in Ashley too!!

Actually I still have a soft spot for Kaitlyn but maybe not best one to give advice considering her missteps along the way.

Ladybug82 wrote:Your not alone, 'bean!  No to cupcake returning to be on Jojo's season.  He can continue to make appearance on The Doctors and/or occasional bach nation stuff, etc., but no to being a returnee.  I'd prefer no returnees at all.  And I fully expect to see Becca at least once (more if she can get it) during the season.

julychild wrote:

Duke702 wrote:Ali said in her snapchat she and Des are meeting up with JoJo today!

The only thing I remember about Ali's season is Chris Lambton, but I still prefer the choice of she and Des to Andi and Kaitlyn, as potential advice givers.

Sadly, I think she'll find herself listening to Andi and Kaitlyn more because they all seem quite similar, IMO.  But personally, yes, I'd prefer advice from Ali and Des.  JMO.

If you focus on the outside stuff, yes, you' might think she's more like Andi and Kaitlyn, but if you listen to what the other girls who lived with and got to know her says, then you'll see that she is less like them than one may thibk.

Every season, I try to focus on what the others have to say about a cast, to get a sense of who they truly are. Not what the edit shows, and not what I think they are. That's me...

Yeah that's a no go on Cupcake for me as well. Who wants to date a guy who's much prettier and more feminine than you are?

As much as I was joking around on the returnees last night, I'm hoping there aren't any this season. Surely there are enough first timers who would be interested in JoJo. We don't need desperate and pathetic hasbeans and neverweres. They can go on BiP to stay relevant. Then again looking at the bunch our man Steve just released... eek.

bluwavz wrote:Yeah that's a no go on Cupcake for me as well. Who wants to date a guy who's much prettier and more feminine than you are?

As much as I was joking around on the returnees last night, I'm hoping there aren't any this season. Surely there are enough first timers who would be interested in JoJo. We don't need desperate and pathetic hasbeans and neverweres. They can go on BiP to stay relevant. Then again looking at the bunch our man Steve just released... eek.

Hey, is that a dig at me?

I'd much rather have advice from Ali & Des than Andi & Kaitlyn but that's just me.

sophienette wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I heard Nov 25 which is Sag. I am a Sag.

As far as I know Nov 25 is her birthday

I had seen on a private ig act that her birthday is Nov 1st. Her friend wished her a hbd on that day while they were still filming. Couldn't bring it over because private account. She is Nov 1st, I believe. Ex boyfriend has an old birthday post on his ig too.

albean99 wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Yeah that's a no go on Cupcake for me as well. Who wants to date a guy who's much prettier and more feminine than you are?

As much as I was joking around on the returnees last night, I'm hoping there aren't any this season. Surely there are enough first timers who would be interested in JoJo. We don't need desperate and pathetic hasbeans and neverweres. They can go on BiP to stay relevant. Then again looking at the bunch our man Steve just released... eek.

Hey, is that a dig at me?

I'd much rather have advice from Ali & Des than Andi & Kaitlyn but that's just me.

LOL. Hasbeens!

I think JoJo would much rather get advice from Ali & Des than Andi & Kaitlyn as well. The former two have done well for themselves after the show and hopefully JoJo goes their route than the latter two.

julychild wrote:If you focus on the outside stuff, yes, you' might think she's more like Andi and Kaitlyn, but if you listen to what the other girls who lived with and got to know her says, then you'll see that she is less like them than one may thibk.

Every season, I try to focus on what the others have to say about a cast, to get a sense of who they truly are. Not what the edit shows, and not what I think they are. That's me...

I've listened to the interviews about what the others had to say and I do give that weight.  They were there, I was not.  I'm sure she has some great qualities and can be a great friend... same as Andi and Kaitlyn (whether I agree with their actions or like them, I'm sure they aren't all bad, they have friends that support them too).  I think she can be like them and still have good qualities that people would be drawn to and like.  

All season I saw parts that I thought were genuine and parts that seemed scripted and too smooth.  Not to say they all didn't have producer driven lines at some point during the season.  While I understand being concerned about your family member on the show being lead on, getting heartbroken, etc., the way her family/brothers went about it was just too much, IMO.  After that, she just seemed to become more and more scripted to me.  But that's just my opinion... I know not everyone will agree and I'm certainly not trying to persuade anyone to my way of thinking.  I'll give her season a chance, maybe she'll grow on me.  Hopefully she'll get some great guys to cheer on (not to be F1, and that's not simply because I'm not all in on Jojo.  I just generally prefer the ones I like not to be dragged threw the mud and whatever else the media and MF and co. will throw their way or even be the lead.).  JMOAA.

julychild wrote:

sophienette wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I heard Nov 25 which is Sag. I am a Sag.

As far as I know Nov 25 is her birthday

I had seen on a private ig act that her birthday is Nov 1st. Her friend wished her a hbd on that day while they were still filming. Couldn't bring it over because private account. She is Nov 1st, I believe. Ex boyfriend has an old birthday post on his ig too.

her FB says November 1st!

Sorry, let me clarify. More Cupcake for me to watch, no way do I want Cupcake for JoJo. I think comebacks are for us not the lead anyway, but I do agree Cupcake can do better than MF.

I just want some hot man candy without all the crying, self sabatoging, crazy mess that was Kaitlyn. K got her soulmate, but I hated watching her do it. She is another one who is lucky her F1 got over the stupidity shown during filming.

I know I am in the minority, but I would be friends with Olivia over the dumb and dumber twins and Amanda, so while the girls opinions are informative, I still consider whose opinion it is I am listening too. JMO