The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

IMO, the timing of releasing Jordan's name as a contestant RIGHT as Fleiss is getting flooded with the "NO CAILA" tweets, way too convenient. Seems to be done on purpose, like "Hey if you don't like Caila, watch the show because of this hot/semi famous guy".

Why did Fleiss decide to announce the Bachelorette on Twitter? Is it a joke ?

Duke702 wrote:

bluwavz wrote:

see2love wrote:Yeah, same way Ben was rehearsed on Kaithlyn's season but the twitterverse have selective
memory I guess.

Which has me curious, why exactly did the fans on social media give Ben get a pass on his obvious Bachelor audition? It's not like he came off believable. He barely remembered the name of the woman he was supposedly falling in love with in the limo.

Its' different, they are different people. Ben is more likable, Caila is not IMO. The way they are is different. I really like him and he always seems very genuine to me. But Caila comes across fake (confusing, a bit stuck up, too young, dumped her boyfriend, annoying).

Not everyone is going to come across likable on tv. Some are some aren't. I've actually liked most of the Bachelorette's they have chosen-- jillian, ashley, emily, des, kaitlyn, and Andi was ok before her season. Ali I thought was kind of fake. So it's a bit odd for me to not really like the Bachelorette. Some of the Bachelors were questionable, or not my type.

I totally agree with the bolded, but if per chance that article is right and caila is the bette, then one thing for sure....I totally WON'T be invested in the lead but will be in it for the sleuthing and hopefully for the guys. Caila isn't on my want to watch list(by a long shot), but at least there is eye candy to get interested in.

I agree that the stunt casting is a diversionary tactic but that can sometimes fall flat, too..it's almost too Bravo or like those old VH1 dating shows, i.e. so blatantly scripted, fame mongering or money grabbing or all three. Folks like that do not need TB to find love or a date. I think they get more mileage out of an ordinary attention seeker  ..such as an Olivia or Lace type. JMO

metalgirl wrote:

california90 wrote:I think if Caila is the next 'ette, people will still watch, but not invested. And maybe that is a GOOD thing because expectations will probably be pretty low and people will focus on the guys and not her.

Some people have ALWAYS watched the Bachelorette for the guys as eye candy rather than the female lead.  And some of us also don't worry about being "invested" in somebody else's possible relationship.  We don't stress about the intimacies of people we only see on the TV screen.  We don't rail and wail and clutch our pearls or gnash our teeth when we encounter a participant on the show we may not care for.  

We know it's strictly entertainment and the eventual outcome will in no way impact our own personal lives.  That's the way I watch this show, and I know many others do to.  

Umm... I'm not sure if this was directed at me since I was quoted or just a continuation of my post?? I don't disagree with you...

But clarifying, what I said was a general nonchalant statement about some fans and definitely not all. I definitely have seen fans become really passionate and attached to the point of even bullying others when there's a disagreement or even just an observation. Go on twitter or Instagram.. lots there. Maybe it's a good idea that people might not be invested in the lead and focus on the guys etc. That's just all I'm saying.. not even trying to make a generalization of all fans of the franchise.

No matter what the show, there are always people who get way too invested.

I remember reading somewhere a few years ago of an actor in a scripted tv series who was out and about somewhere when a fan of the show ran into him and began yelling at him for something that his apparently evil character was doing on the show. It was as if that person couldn't distinguish that the character on the show was not the same as the person who portrayed him and as if he was personally responsible for a character written by someone else. It was just ridiculous. The anonymity of SM has just made this type of thing more prevalent because not only do people feel...and are actually encouraged to be...a part of some show, they can hide behind that anonymity to say things that they would never have the nerve to say to someone in person.

This board and one other are about as involved as I get in following cast members and sleuthing. It's another version of one stop shopping. I don't have time to follow all my friends on SM and comment on all their cr*p, let alone strangers from some show!

If anyone is interested, I can work on the filming schedule, chart again this season after info becomes available??

Aunties_Love wrote:

Duke702 wrote:

bluwavz wrote:

Which has me curious, why exactly did the fans on social media give Ben get a pass on his obvious Bachelor audition? It's not like he came off believable. He barely remembered the name of the woman he was supposedly falling in love with in the limo.

Its' different, they are different people. Ben is more likable, Caila is not IMO. The way they are is different. I really like him and he always seems very genuine to me. But Caila comes across fake (confusing, a bit stuck up, too young, dumped her boyfriend, annoying).

Not everyone is going to come across likable on tv. Some are some aren't. I've actually liked most of the Bachelorette's they have chosen-- jillian, ashley, emily, des, kaitlyn, and Andi was ok before her season. Ali I thought was kind of fake. So it's a bit odd for me to not really like the Bachelorette. Some of the Bachelors were questionable, or not my type.

I totally agree with the bolded, but if per chance that article is right and caila is the bette, then one thing for sure....I totally WON'T be invested in the lead but will be in it for the sleuthing and hopefully for the guys.  Caila isn't on my want to  watch list(by a long shot), but at least there is eye candy to get interested in.

So may different views... I really like Caila. I think she is somewhat like Ben, but her person. Caila to me is totally likable. I think a lead like her is more interesting than Kaitlyn was. This is not a dis to Kaillyn. Just my view and what would be interesting to me. I am just hoping that they do not create a story line for her that is too cringe-worthy. I was enjoying Ben's season until the two ILY's It is less romantic now. Kaitlyn's season was too cringe worthy to me and I was not that interested in the final.

metalgirl wrote:

Seabear wrote:
Hahahahaha..... Agreed too.  There has never been a Bachelor Lead I would have been interested IRL either.

Josh Murray is the only one that ever really interested me as a contestant, so I'm sad he was never made lead.

Josh Murray might just be my least favorite contestant in the franchise. As in the whole history of the bach and ette in every country and language.

I find Caila very likable also. She was highlighted on the GMA WTA piece as was Jubilee and Olivia.

Thanks for the GMA info Albean.  I just watched the segment and I thought Caila handled herself beautifully.  I also liked her honesty with the GMA interviewer regarding seeing Ben.

see2love wrote:

metalgirl wrote:

Seabear wrote:
Hahahahaha..... Agreed too.  There has never been a Bachelor Lead I would have been interested IRL either.

Josh Murray is the only one that ever really interested me as a contestant, so I'm sad he was never made lead.

Josh Murray might just be my least favorite contestant in the franchise. As in the whole history of the bach and ette in every country and language.

Same. Gotta love the variety of tastes on this board!