The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

AmyB wrote:I wouldn't really say he's a tool. I think he was being dumb and reckless and not thinking of the ramifications of his words, but I don't think he was intentionally leading them on. He just doesn't know how to keep his emotions to himself and has some growing up to do.

KB_Mom wrote:I hope when Ben's parents arrive, they lock the liquor cabinet. The boy needs detox to clear his head.

Crazylady29 wrote:Sorry if this was posted already

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20981907_20990891,00.html

charmained wrote:

Ariela wrote:
Astrology-wise: He's an Aries. JoJo is a SAG, LoLo is an Aquarius, so the better choice for Ben should be JoJo for the long haul. Ben didn't know WHY he was feeling things with JoJo....well it's natural for 2 fire signs to not understand why they are so attracted to each other, other than it's USUALLY meant to be....without trying.

Just a correction: Jojo said she's a Scorpio (on her Twitter). This totally changes things... on the astrological perspective, anyway.

Mommyof1 wrote:

Crazylady29 wrote:Sorry if this was posted already

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20981907_20990891,00.html

Wow, damage control is in full force today.  

I suspect when Chris asks, "Any wedding plans?"...they'll both say, "We're just taking it slow, just want to be a normal couple, go to the movies, out in public..." (different happy couple, same AFTR script). What will be interesting is if one of them says that they want to move to be with the other (that's a huge indicator that they are serious about making a go of it).

I knew that I could trust JoJo with my heart and I wanted to show her that she could trust me with hers too.

Bachinfo wrote:IMO Ben told them both he loved them because he was actually in this as a person trying to find someone for the rest of his life.  Not just worry about what viewers would think.  I understand this upsets people, but imo, he felt it and so he said it like he would in normal life.  Is it brutal to the final two?  Yes.  But imo he did not do it to hurt anyone or for the viewers or producers.  Also, they came on the bachelor!!  Knowing that they would be dating a man who had feelings for other people.  He may be coming across as a "tool" because he wasn't trying to be politically correct by holding back like most have done, but he likely was pushed by tptb to say it back to more than one if he wanted to. My guess is tptb tried to get him to say ILY to all three and he wouldn't, because he didn't feel it.  I also think he and his F1 can handle this all, as tough as it likely is, because as opposed to many other bachelors, he allowed himself to really feel these things and let his heart lead him.  
Oh, and I understand speculation of who slept with who is part of the sleuthing talk, but unless you were in that room, you have no idea if he did anything, besides literally sleep with anyone.  Neither does RS btw.  
As far as the blog, I haven't read it, but keep in mind how much they censored Sharleen's blog they aren't supposed to have any control over.  Imagine the control they have over "his" blog.
Just my opinion and two cents for the morning.  I am guessing it won't be a popular one, but that os where my thoughts are for today.

meauxwalk wrote:I'm confused...wasn't it sleuthed that Lauren's FS date was last and they showed them out of order? But in Ben's blog makes it seem like the tv order was what actually happened.

If Lauren's date was really last then it all is spin IMO to make him really look confused. From what I saw Lauren's "I Love Yous" were more varied than Jojo's. Several of the times Ben said ILY to Jojo's seemed to be voice overs where I couldn't actually see his mouth moving with the same wording and inflection "I love you, Jojo." Could TPTB have repeated the ILY to make it look like Ben said it more than he did?