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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:22 am

So now the previews make even more sense when you hear Ben saying he made a mistake and he didn't know how it happened. Those aren't edited statements imo. I can see producers putting the brakes on Lauren by messing with her mind, and Jojo's as well to create a down to the wire, photo finish. Cray cray folks!

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Post by tennischick80 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:22 am

Lucas15 wrote:charmained yes - IMO Ben is thinking that Lauren is going to blindside him which is exactly what he feared she would do; he's prepared for the worst from her and laying the groundwork for an attempt at a relationship with JoJo. And that's exactly what the producers would have been whispering in his ear and why they scheduled this to go down the way they did.

Of course they knew full well how Lauren felt and they had to keep Ben from finding out for this to work. At the end of the day they will get the compelling TV they want and Ben will still get Lauren and Lauren will get Ben. IMO the tomfoolery that surrounds how this happened will be quickly forgotten by both Ben and Lauren - no matter how things look to viewers these "F2 complications" never seem to affect relationships in the real world once the show airs.
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Okay, but I still am flummoxed because I thought Jojo was last in her filming...which indicates he knew Lauren loved him before his FD with Jojo. Eeek. I want your theory to be the right one...that would be so romantic!!! I thought you didn't love me...doubt crept in...I'm sorry- I just want you. You're the one I can't say good-bye to.
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Post by Crazylady29 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:24 am

I really hate this producers for all this poop that could have been avoided. These are real people with real feelings and it just makes me mad. I hope Lauren is ok.
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Post by nutty1 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:24 am

I blew up the above picture....... could it be this lamp?

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"My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am"    
"God puts the right people in our lives when the timing is just right." - Jef
"Love is everything it's cracked up to be…It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for" - Nick
"What I felt for you was greater than a moment" - Nick
"I knew I loved you right away & I didn't even know why" - Ben
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Post by NCGalBecca Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:25 am

Maybe the hot tub got to him..one of the earlier season teasers show Ben and JoJo getting into the tub. She has the red bikini on in the pic above.

As said above, I don't think it was difficult for Ben to succumb to JoJo. The cut Vegas clip showed me two people into each other in a very natural way. They looked like a real couple into each other would, so, of course, that clip had to be left out.


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Post by tennischick80 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:26 am

Crazylady29 wrote:Man if i were Lauren I would not know how to feel after being told that I have always loved you but I also told someone else that I was in love with them too. I would not be too confident and would be very confused in hearing that



YES!!! SAME here. You can't unsay "I love you". How do you explain yourself? If she gets engaged to Ben, I wouldn't blame her if she ended it after all is revealed. TPTB shoot themselves in the foot, because don't they want to make long lasting supercouples with ABC televised weddings...so more people have faith this process works. I suppose if Fleiss has his ratings, it doesn't matter what the collateral damage is. Heartless.
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Post by Crazylady29 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:28 am

Still how can you tell the girl you supposedly have been in love with for a while that you also told another girl that you were in love with her too. How can you explain yourself there? I honestly don't think you can and i only feel for the girls
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:32 am

Now doesn't it make sense when CH said if Jojo, there's something to be said about a girl who makes things easy for you? It probably refers to this Ily . To me Lauren knew where his strong connection is. That convo where Ben showed he trusted her , will be Lauren's turn imo I'm not liking the end and might let it play to where I can FF because I feel sorry for the F2 if it's going to be that brutal.

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Post by tennischick80 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:34 am

NCGalBecca wrote:Maybe the hot tub got to him..one of the earlier season teasers show Ben and JoJo getting into the tub. She has the red bikini on in the pic above.

As said above, I don't think it was difficult for Ben to succumb to JoJo. The cut Vegas clip showed me two people into each other in a very natural way. They looked like a real couple into each other would, so, of course, that clip had to be left out.

I feel Lauren has been at the forefront of Ben's story up until now (on our screens). In the sc of Ben and Jojo kissing in the FD suite, it looks like they're naked, imo. (Hot and steamy) We haven't had that kind of night time steaminess with Lauren previewed to us yet! I'm sure it happens...looking forward to it. I think there is a hiccup by Ben somewhere in there. He's in deep with both (or so TPTB want us to believe).
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Post by tennischick80 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:37 am

ForeverLove wrote:Now doesn't it make sense when CH said if Jojo, there's something to be said about a girl who makes things easy for you? It probably refers to this Ily . To me Lauren knew where his strong connection is. That convo where Ben showed he trusted her , will be Lauren's turn imo I'm not liking the end and might let it play to where I can FF because I feel sorry for the F2 if it's going to be that brutal.

I'm sorry, Forever, do you mean that you think you'll FF the end because you won't want to see him pick Jojo? What will Lauren's turn? She feels she knows where his connection is? I'm not following... how could Lauren know for sure?! Do you think Lauren is overconfident?
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Post by Crazylady29 Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:38 am

I honestly am losing all respect for Ben right now. If he indeed did sleep with jojo, tell her he is in love with her than does the same to Lauren man I hope Lauren makes it so hard for him
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Post by NCGalBecca Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:39 am

Maybe TPTB's way of making it up to Ben (and Lauren) is how they've openly showcased their love story above all others in the episodes? So, while perfect Ben, is exposed as less than perfect, he still loved her best, and all should be forgiven?

It wouldn't fly with me but I am from another era.. but am trying to get that things are different now as my son likes to tell me.

I wonder how the flawed hero story will be received by the audience given that MF calls the finale "brutal" (for JoJo).


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