The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

avacaroline wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

Jeepers wrote:I know this sounds weird .. But Ben almost sounds drunk when you listen to that blip of ILY a few times in a row LOL

That would be a massive mistake. Slurring it when you're drunk.

Oh Ben.....  That was my first thought!  He looks a little sloppy to me!  And, that would totally explain CH's little quip about not him even realizing he had said it until they told him!

Honestly, I think this is exactly what happened. We know that the "I've known that I'm in love with you for a while, as well" is to Lauren, yes? Is that the one with the blonde hair in the corner? I'm getting all confused. Anyways, that looks like the grey collared shirt he's wearing at their FD dinner. And then the "I do love you" is definitely to her also -- navy blue v-neck t-shirt that he's wearing the morning after the FD. Both of those ILYs were completely intentional. So if CH said one of the ILYs just slipped out without Ben even realizing it, then by the process of elimination it has to have been the new, possibly drunken "I love you" which is presumably to JoJo. Ack. As a Ben/Lauren fangirl I think I'm going to be cringing through this episode.

Kashathediva wrote:Those are totally different loveseats. The style of the arms alone are different.

What love seats? I'm only comparing the grey one to the one Ben is sitting on and we can only see the colour and fabric there, nothing about style.

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My SC

There were two photos under each other. The post were comparing the loveseats. I said they were totally different loveseats.

Yeah Caila's date is going to be awkward and awesome to watch. I am also interested in watching her get her bachette audition on. She will be the entertainment. I love watching Lauren and Ben so that will be nice to watch, but if that new Ily is to Jojo. He was really feeling that. That might be hard to watch. Also, are we discounting the rumors that the second girls ily was near a waterfall? Or is Ben just dropping the l word everywhere?

Eagle Eye- I think you're on to something- Ben not entirely sober when he delivers the second ILY. Frankly, I think many of the leads drink way too much going into these last dates except with the F1 because it's so hard at this point.... at least I think that's true with the most sincere of them.

Eagle Eye wrote:

avacaroline wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

That would be a massive mistake. Slurring it when you're drunk.

Oh Ben.....  That was my first thought!  He looks a little sloppy to me!  And, that would totally explain CH's little quip about not him even realizing he had said it until they told him!

Honestly, I think this is exactly what happened. We know that the "I've known that I'm in love with you for a while, as well" is to Lauren, yes? Is that the one with the blonde hair in the corner? I'm getting all confused. Anyways, that looks like the grey collared shirt he's wearing at their FD dinner. And then the "I do love you" is definitely to her also -- navy blue v-neck t-shirt that he's wearing the morning after the FD. Both of those ILYs were completely intentional. So if CH said one of the ILYs just slipped out without Ben even realizing it, then by the process of elimination it has to have been the new, possibly drunken "I love you" which is presumably to JoJo. Ack. As a Ben/Lauren fangirl I think I'm going to be cringing through this episode.

Me too! We'll need drama-mine for sure. I can see why FRC would be so crazy for him. Guess it's his journey to unravel but I don't feel like I'm on a train anymore if Jojo gets 2nd girl ily, I'll feel like I'm on a roller coaster called Punch Drunk Love.

nutty1 wrote:I am so confused as to what couches, love seats, etc we are even comparing.

Nutty- we're looking for this sofa and whatever it is that has that diamond pattern on it behind Ben. It's from the new preview.


Sophie's SC

Does anyone know where Ben stayed? TIA

Kashathediva wrote:There were two photos under each other. The post were comparing the loveseats. I said they were totally different loveseats.

No, I wasn't comparing the loveseats, I was saying they were swapped. One of the pics is JoJo's room, the other one is a smaller room in the same building with the love seat that looks similar to whatever Ben is sitting on. It's the closest match I could find in any of the rooms.

But if that ILY was to JoJo then it wasn't on the FD, but the LCD, so it couldn't have accidentally slipped out. I mean since he apparently said it in the FS already.

grace8136 wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I am so confused as to what couches, love seats, etc we are even comparing.

Nutty- we're looking for this sofa and whatever it is that has that diamond pattern on it behind Ben. It's from the new preview.


Sophie's SC

Does anyone know where Ben stayed? TIA

And I think it might be from villa plantana, which seems to have been redecorated recently but Sandals site shows old pics.... I haven't found exact matches, but the colour palette and wall light fixtures are similar IMO

grace8136 wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I am so confused as to what couches, love seats, etc we are even comparing.

Nutty- we're looking for this sofa and whatever it is that has that diamond pattern on it behind Ben. It's from the new preview.


Sophie's SC

Does anyone know where Ben stayed? TIA

Oh, I know that! I've watched that part of the video about 30 times. But all these pictures being posted. I don't know whose room is whose at this point and what couch we are comparing to what!

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So I just watched it AGAIN and Ben doesn't seem that drunk to me. Lauren seems a little tipsy when she tells him he's the man of her dreams and Ben's blinking reaction seems odd. Maybe he thought she was going to say ily then? Or maybe he's just really listening to her, or maybe that's not his reaction to her and that's his reaction to something someone else said. Ugh. I don't know. I don't like this new ily. He sounds really sincere.