Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

sophienette wrote:As for mum's opinions, I disagree. My MIL called me a French wh*re in front of all our friends at my then boyfriend's 21 party, and offered to introduce him to a "good irish girl" 2 weeks before our wedding. We have been married 14 years.

yes she is extreme, but bottom line is that I do not believe "mum knows best" in matter of love and long term relationships.

And by the way, my hubby's family is as close as it gets, their dad passed when he was a teen and he is the eldest.

MO

There may be exceptions to the rule. I don't think all mothers are like that. But generally speaking, I think it's safe to say that mothers generally have good intuition and can see things their children cannot see and they know best. But Ben's mom can be the odd one out. But certainly he should consider her point of view - this is a lifelong decision he's making. It doesn't hurt to get another opinion. But at the end of the day, he's living with her, it's his choice and I hope his parents (which I'm sure they will) will respect his decision. If Lauren is the F1 it's just unfortunate that TPTB put her through that is all.

But again, it's not like the mum had anything bad to say about Lauren? She was forced to pick and picked. IMO not such a big deal and I hope Lauren and the Higgins are in a good enough place that they can deal with it privately if they haven't already.

And BTW my mum also thought my hubby was too "meek" for me, I guess I have the bad luck to have 2 exceptions...

sophienette wrote:But again, it's not like the mum had anything bad to say about Lauren? She was forced to pick and picked. IMO not such a big deal and I hope Lauren and the Higgins are in a good enough place that they can deal with it privately if they haven't already.

And BTW my mum also thought my hubby was too "meek" for me, I guess I have the bad luck to have 2 exceptions...

My mil loved me but hated my sil. Tried to break up their engagement and all. They're still married too. Go figure right?

sophienette wrote:But again, it's not like the mum had anything bad to say about Lauren? She was forced to pick and picked. IMO not such a big deal and I hope Lauren and the Higgins are in a good enough place that they can deal with it privately if they haven't already.

And BTW my mum also thought my hubby was too "meek" for me, I guess I have the bad luck to have 2 exceptions...

My sympathies - it must have been very hurtful at the time

You would be well placed then to know that a Parent`s opinion can be a complicating feature at the  start of  a relationship

There are exceptions to the rule for sure, but I am talking about Ben, he is an only son, and very close to them, he calls them about everything, remember he took Emily there. So, I am not saying he is going to chose JoJo, but I think this make his decision more difficult, especially in light " this being too good to be true". We shall see.
Is it Monday yet?

Raggy 43 wrote:

sophienette wrote:But again, it's not like the mum had anything bad to say about Lauren? She was forced to pick and picked. IMO not such a big deal and I hope Lauren and the Higgins are in a good enough place that they can deal with it privately if they haven't already.

And BTW my mum also thought my hubby was too "meek" for me, I guess I have the bad luck to have 2 exceptions...

My sympathies - it must have been very hurtful at the time

You would be well placed then to know that a Parent`s opinion can be a complicating feature at the  start of  a relationship

Actually no. It made us stronger. I am all for family disapproval. Worked for JP and Ashley

sophienette wrote:

Actually no. It made us stronger. I am all for parental disapproval. Worked for JP and Ashley

Did Ash's parents disapprove? As I remember, it was her sister who was the hardest on them about their relationship. Maybe her mom chimed in a little bit about her being less relaxed with him.

Funny enough, when I saw the preview, I thought, "The mom is playing the Christie role this season."

According to Ashley her sister is who she was closest to in the family.

I did say "family" disapproval BTW.

My daughter's mother-in-law/father-in-law caused all sorts of chaos during their engagement and wedding. Lots of expectations and "this is what the women in this family do". 
It culminated in the father-in-law falling over dead drunk at the end of their nice wedding reception in Manhattan and me getting down on the floor in my gown to help assess him and provide first aid until 911 got there. (I'm a nurse)
My son-in-law and daughter did not speak to them for a year. Relationships are better, but still strained. 
Parents need to behave--it's not always the kids.

sophienette wrote:According to Ashley her sister is who she was closest to in the family.

I did say "family" disapproval BTW.

Oh, it said "parental disapproval." Glad that it's cleared up!

veg_out wrote:

sophienette wrote:According to Ashley her sister is who she was closest to in the family.

I did say "family" disapproval BTW.

Oh, it said "parental disapproval." Glad that it's cleared up!

Sorry! i will edit

It doesn't really matter to me who Ben picked. I still think he picked Lauren. I also think his mom probably didn't know either girl that well and she could possibly changer her mind after getting to know Lauren better. I just find it funny some people think Lauren is a better fit for Ben when his mom, who knows Ben way way better than any of us here, would pick Jojo after spending some time with both girls. It's probably her gut feeling. (IMO and hope it doesn't offend any one here. )Or, was she prodded by tptb to pick Jojo?
I don't know how Jojo will feel after watching hearing his mom's pick , if she's f2. Will she feel validated or even more heartbroken?