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Post by Kashathediva Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:23 pm

Not going to make a judgement call on someone else's behavior on an edited reality tv show, but as I go through real life, I find there is a lot of real harshness.



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Post by Guest Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:40 pm

Ash2214 wrote:"Don't blindside me" could have meant different things to JoJo. Maybe she wouldn't be as upset if he just let her go, but telling her he loved her and possibly having sex with her? That is harsh IMO. He didn't have to tell her he loved her. He took it to another level IMO. At least skeezy Andi didn't tell Nick she loved him. She still had that card to use against him when he outed her, but Ben doesn't. Could it have been genuine when he told her he loved her? Absolutely, but I still think he knew he was picking Lauren.

In regards to the preview, I think they clear up the ex thing fairly quickly because on the same couch, we see them talking about her ex and then we also see Ben smiling pretty big telling JoJo he's nervous presumably to meet her family and there's also a snippet of them kissing on that couch. I'll hold my judgement when it comes to the brothers until I see it.


Who said he told Jojo he loves her? The promo says, this WEEK I told two women I love them. We can only confirm one of them being Lauren. The other could have been Caila who was still there in that week before Ben sent her home. The first ily is so unemotional and detached. A thought was implanted by TPTB about two women being told ily, and we did automatically assume it was Jojo and Lauren, but it's probably not Jojo imho

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Post by NCGalBecca Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:52 pm

Maybe she wouldn't be as upset if he just let her go, but telling her he loved her and possibly having sex with her? That is harsh IMO.

I agree..So many are seeing this superior love connection between Ben and Lauren that is being commented upon here and on SM yet he still manages to say I Love You and possibly more, to someone else, too?  If it turns out that this indeed happened with JoJo, how the heck did this even happen?  JoJo has openly questioned it and doesn't have Oliviaesque blinders on about it - she seems to have a good read on the playing field. So, this tells me that Ben must do a pretty good sales job down the line of convincing her otherwise.

I always wonder if the winner spoiler wasn't out there as well as the 2 I Love You info, would the read on things be the same?

I don't really have a favorite and thus far, can see him picking either Lauren or Jo Jo. At one point, I believe he said his favorite type of gal is bubbly and I think Jo Jo fits that type.


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Post by Ash2214 Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:09 pm

ForeverLove wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:"Don't blindside me" could have meant different things to JoJo. Maybe she wouldn't be as upset if he just let her go, but telling her he loved her and possibly having sex with her? That is harsh IMO. He didn't have to tell her he loved her. He took it to another level IMO. At least skeezy Andi didn't tell Nick she loved him. She still had that card to use against him when he outed her, but Ben doesn't. Could it have been genuine when he told her he loved her? Absolutely, but I still think he knew he was picking Lauren.

In regards to the preview, I think they clear up the ex thing fairly quickly because on the same couch, we see them talking about her ex and then we also see Ben smiling pretty big telling JoJo he's nervous presumably to meet her family and there's also a snippet of them kissing on that couch. I'll hold my judgement when it comes to the brothers until I see it.


Who said he told Jojo he loves her? The promo says, this WEEK I told two women I love them. We can only confirm one of them being Lauren. The other could have been Caila who was still there in that week before Ben sent her home. The first ily is so unemotional and detached. A thought was implanted by TPTB about two women being told ily,  and we did automatically assume it was Jojo and Lauren, but it's probably not Jojo imho

How can you confirm one of them is Lauren? Because the spoiler said she's the F1 and because we can see a few blonde strands of hair in the corner? For all we know, Emily, Olivia and all of the other blonde girls could have come running back. We're both doing the same thing and that is assuming he told his F2 women, that we know of because of spoilers and investigating, that he loved them. He has said more than once now that he fell in love with two women. I highly doubt if he felt that way about Caila that he would have let her go when he did IMO.

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Post by Buckeye_Fan Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:47 pm

JoJo's HTD reminds me of Des' HTD on Sean's season.  Now, her ex-bf was a practical joke, but her brother lit into Sean.  And, could it be a coincidence? Des became The Bachelorette!

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:11 pm

Ash2214 wrote:
ForeverLove wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:"Don't blindside me" could have meant different things to JoJo. Maybe she wouldn't be as upset if he just let her go, but telling her he loved her and possibly having sex with her? That is harsh IMO. He didn't have to tell her he loved her. He took it to another level IMO. At least skeezy Andi didn't tell Nick she loved him. She still had that card to use against him when he outed her, but Ben doesn't. Could it have been genuine when he told her he loved her? Absolutely, but I still think he knew he was picking Lauren.

In regards to the preview, I think they clear up the ex thing fairly quickly because on the same couch, we see them talking about her ex and then we also see Ben smiling pretty big telling JoJo he's nervous presumably to meet her family and there's also a snippet of them kissing on that couch. I'll hold my judgement when it comes to the brothers until I see it.


Who said he told Jojo he loves her? The promo says, this WEEK I told two women I love them. We can only confirm one of them being Lauren. The other could have been Caila who was still there in that week before Ben sent her home. The first ily is so unemotional and detached. A thought was implanted by TPTB about two women being told ily,  and we did automatically assume it was Jojo and Lauren, but it's probably not Jojo imho

How can you confirm one of them is Lauren? Because the spoiler said she's the F1 and because we can see a few blonde strands of hair in the corner? For all we know, Emily, Olivia and all of the other blonde girls could have come running back. We're both doing the same thing and that is assuming he told his F2 women, that we know of because of spoilers and investigating, that he loved them. He has said more than once now that he fell in love with two women. I highly doubt if he felt that way about Caila that he would have let her go when he did IMO.

Ok. It was my clumsy attempt to sleuth. :headbanging

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Post by Ash2214 Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:16 pm

^ Not clumsy Smiley I just personally think it would make sense that the two girls were JoJo and Lauren. In reality, we're going off of spoilers and digging, so we won't really know 100% until we see it and even then, it might not be the whole truth.

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:24 pm

Ash2214 wrote:^ Not clumsy Smiley I just personally think it would make sense that the two girls were JoJo and Lauren. In reality, we're going off of spoilers and digging, so we won't really know 100% until we see it and even then, it might not be the whole truth.


True and it would make sense when he says, unfortunately I just love someone....more.

I think I'll just stick to fan-girling

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Post by Duke702 Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:34 pm

Maybe it's along the lines of the old "I love you, BUT I'm not in love with you" phrase

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Post by Seabear Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:40 pm

The ILY article says Ben tells the the 2nd woman ILY on his date in the rainforest.  We have seen how "excited" Ben looks on that date.  I think Ben was not really "thinking" but rather just "feeling."  This IMO caused a big Oops and an Ouch for both women later on.

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Post by Lucas15 Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:50 pm

Mommyof1 wrote:JoJo, Becca and Ben all said the word "blindside."  We have already seen Becca get blindsided, now it's JoJo AND Ben's turn.  We know how JoJo will be blindsided in the end, but how will Ben be blindsided?  Thoughts?  

Is it written in stone that Ben will actually be blindsided? Is it not possible that Ben is the only one out of the 3 that isn't blindsided?

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Post by iamreal2u Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:12 pm

For the JoJo believers... second time for the day JoJo and Ben are on social media at the same time. I noticed this on 2/15 as well.
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