The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

If JoJo is one who says goodbye, that would leave open possibility of her being next lead, because she would not be the heartbroken F2 at ATFR. (Just sayin)

Could all this "blindside" be that JoJo is the one to say goodbye???????????

GuardianAngel wrote:

sophienette wrote:I still think he meets F2 at the limo and lets her go there, sparing her the walk to the FRC spot and that awful scene we get most season.
Or, they already break up the previous day and she is just saying goodbye on her way to the airport.

I just dont see him taking her all the way to FRC rejection

Or she arrives gets out of limo and tells him I am not going through this, leaving now, I know you're in love with someone else?

I think you're on to something sophie. No F2 has ever said to TB that they are not going through with it before the FRC. We will be able to check that further when we get s/caps if we get s/caps of the F2.

Editing-wise, the way they are showing Jo to be kind of a "take charge" type of person, this scenario wouldn't surprise me. The way she pulled Ben aside after the Jubes departure to check in with him...that seemed intuitive to me. And with that skill, she could take herself out before she gets to hurt/humiliated.

Miyala wrote:In the second preview first episode (at the end) they show him looking troubled leaning agains a wall (on a balcony?) with a white shirt and dark tie. Is that from FRC?

guessing you mean this? I think the tie looks the same but not much to go on!

Yes!

I'm pretty sure the "what's never happened before" is just the "I love you" thing. That's what's been advertised.

tennischick80 wrote:Ever - do you think it means it is too obvious and we're going to get blindsided as an audience? It is interesting that not everyone feels it is obvious. We all have our own perceptions and maybe my feelings are clouding my objectiveness. For instance, since I really like Lauren B., I may be choosing to see the warmth in his eyes / body language when he is with Lauren and augment it to a higher level than others. So, I may be blindsided because I'm invested in this couple. I always look to the end of the book before I read it. There is too much other disappointment in the world, anything I can know about the future, it decreases my anxiety. Haaha.  Either way, not everything in this world is 100% guaranteed except my love for my family and God (and death & taxes).

eversotrue wrote:

rhondam wrote:
    This ^ is exactly how I feel about it all!  If Lauren is F1, and I believe she is, TPTB neglected to show me enough of how her and Ben are so into each other. They left far too much on the cutting room floor to make me feel this relationship.

Seriously? I feel like they've shown wayyyy too much already. Everyone and their mother thinks she's "the one."

Honestly? I have no idea. I just want "something" to happen. This season is too predictable IMO.

mysthelma wrote:

eversotrue wrote:

rhondam wrote:
    This ^ is exactly how I feel about it all!  If Lauren is F1, and I believe she is, TPTB neglected to show me enough of how her and Ben are so into each other. They left far too much on the cutting room floor to make me feel this relationship.

Seriously? I feel like they've shown wayyyy too much already. Everyone and their mother thinks she's "the one."

IA they have shown too much sweet moments with Ben doing the chase(he is smitten) but I also agree with agentcuris that I want to see a more balanced relationship. With Andi and Josh as well as Kaitlyn and Shawn we were shown the relationship dynamics both the sweet moments, the arguments and lovers tiff, the doubts and all which made for great tv

Agreed. They just show them being like "kids in love (lust)

First it is very early on, 2nd the deepest convo Ben has had that we have been shown, from his POV, is about his dad, and it was with Lauren, 3rd I disagree he is doing all the chasing, she is pretty opened about how she feels!

nothatgirl wrote:I feel like they've shown a lot to show that Ben really likes Lauren B, but nothing to really make me feel invested in them as a couple. I haven't seen them really connect on a deeper level. It just seems purely like infatuation to me. Although Jojo isn't my favorite and I don't think that she/Ben would work IRL, they do actually seem to have a friendship, real conversations, and a playful chemistry. It seems like a more well-rounded relationship even in the little we've seen.

I still think it will be Lauren, I just can see why he was also falling for Jojo. It seems similar to Melissa v. Molly to me in a way, where I think Jason was also infatuated with Melissa but he actually connected more with Molly. JMO.  

Agreed!

I wish I didn't feel this way..cause I really do like the idea of Ben and Lauren and DO believe in their connection...but it still feels like night 1 whenever they're together. Maybe they have had more important moments and a more balanced relationship that we just haven't seen it yet..? Idk. I feel like Ben is too obssessed with her honestly. That's not healthy.

Ben said he was worried (on the show/in the blog) that all he and JoJo had was passion and lust, but honestly...they do have a good rapport. I see a more "normal" relationship with them than with L and B. So, it's actually the opposite IMO. I actually think that she's really good at making him feel good about himself, reassuring him, giving him that confidence and he even said that last episode. We've seen her do that for him a few times already..but not as much with Lauren.

Honestly, I think Ben needs a person that has JoJo's demeanor/personality but has Lauren's lifestyle/way of life.

So basically, a combination of the two. Basically neither of these girls are gonna do it for him (jk)

I like all 3 of them. Together and separately. And I like both relationships. These are just my opinions based off what I've seen/believe. In either case, I think Ben has a comfortable relationship with both girls, which is the most important thing.

MiniDiva wrote:^^I agree.  Ben does seem infatuated with Lauren B. but we haven't seen enough on-screen chemistry to convince the average viewer he chooses her.  I wish I wasn't spoiled at this point because it does influence my opinion.  The video clip spoiler of Ben kissing Lauren B. in Indiana basically sold me.  But now I see a SC of Ben kissing JoJo in the middle of the street in Chicago.  He seems to be an equal opportunity public kisser!  

Really? All over Twitter, the average viewers believe it's her or no one.

Honestly, my biggest "issue/dislike" is that Ben seems too "set/obssessed/circled in/goo goo" on Lauren. It makes me want to slap him TBH. Kind of like a "wake the heck up" call. It just makes me worry for him.. Like I've said before, if he's always the one doing the chasing and getting the same result.. then try a different approach Ben!

Ben also believes in "love at first sight", and I think he had that with Lauren. There is no such thing as "love at first sight" though IMO. Soooo...that makes me question his sense on love even more.

No offense to those who believe in "love at first sight" btw. I take that phrase to mean "attraction at first sight"