The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 6 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Kittycat1000 wrote:..She went to college with us and from what I knew and heard she was very fake and vain. She also slept with multiple married men, an engaged man...

Yikes! If this is true it just goes to show how little the lead gets to know the women in the "bachelor bubble"

jen689 wrote:

Kittycat1000 wrote:..She went to college with us and from what I knew and heard she was very fake and vain. She also slept with multiple married men, an engaged man...

Yikes! If this is true it just goes to show how little the lead gets to know the women in the "bachelor bubble"

It's absolutely true! I knew the fiancé who's engagement and future marriage she broke up. Ask anyone at Baylor it was a huge scandal and you can't hide it. He used to be a former hockey player. Sloooooot!!!!

Kittycat1000 wrote:

jen689 wrote:

Kittycat1000 wrote:..She went to college with us and from what I knew and heard she was very fake and vain. She also slept with multiple married men, an engaged man...

Yikes! If this is true it just goes to show how little the lead gets to know the women in the "bachelor bubble"

It's absolutely true! I knew the fiancé who's engagement and future marriage she broke up. Ask anyone at Baylor it was a huge scandal and you can't hide it. He used to be a former hockey player. Sloooooot!!!!

Well, not to defend Jojo, but she didn't break up the engagement, he did. If it hadn't been Jojo, he would have cheated with someone else. I also am a little suspicious it was this major scandal since we've had so many people come here and badmouth Caila, but no one about Jojo until now.

That said, I've always gotten felt that she was insincere and a secret mean girl so it wouldn't surprise me. JMO.

nothatgirl wrote:

Kittycat1000 wrote:

jen689 wrote:
Yikes! If this is true it just goes to show how little the lead gets to know the women in the "bachelor bubble"

It's absolutely true! I knew the fiancé who's engagement and future marriage she broke up. Ask anyone at Baylor it was a huge scandal and you can't hide it. He used to be a former hockey player. Sloooooot!!!!

Well, not to defend Jojo, but she didn't break up the engagement, he did. If it hadn't been Jojo, he would have cheated with someone else. I also am a little suspicious it was this major scandal since we've had so many people come here and badmouth Caila, but no one about Jojo until now.

That said, I've always gotten felt that she was insincere and a secret mean girl so it wouldn't surprise me. JMO.

I understand where you're coming from, and you're right. It's just the disrespect and shows who she is as a person. Not a very respectable one, and definitely not the one she's pretending to be on the show.

Olivia was her most beautiful after being left on the island - vulnerable. Closed mouth. Lost for words.

Norcalgal wrote:Olivia was her most beautiful after being left on the island - vulnerable.  Closed mouth.  Lost for words.

Half of me is laughing, the other half feels bad for her.
She was delusional, imo, but not a mean girl like Leah showed herself to be.

The whole episode was ridiculous and a waste of my time!

I really wonder what compelled Leah to say that about Lauren to Ben. It's not like it's a sentiment that was shared amongst the other girls (obviously not Emily and Amanda, Lauren was sure it wasn't JoJo who said it so obviously they had a close friendship, and Becca said "I'll vouch for that" about Lauren being a genuine person and also tweeted "I love you" to Lauren while the episode was airing) and you'd think if there was footage to back it up TPTB would show it to make the possibility of Ben falling for someone who's fake into a storyline - they don't protect anyone regardless of if they're F1, F2, F3 ect, they even threw Britt who was allegedly a producer favourite and who they really wanted as the Bachelorette under the bus so I can't see them hiding any footage of Lauren being fake if it exists just because she's F1.

It really does look like it's something Leah made up out of jealousy/pettiness. I know the producers can be manipulative but how she acted in this episode seems like it's on another level. So weird. 

I think it was mostly production behind it and she was the easiest tool to use to throw Lauren under the bus since she hadn't had a 1-on-1 date yet and was feeling insecure and jealous about it. They most likely promised her a BiP appearance as well if she did it. I tend to think most of these folks are desperate and easily manipulated so it didn't surprise me that Leah went along with it. They needed to throw a wrench into Ben's obviousness about Lauren especially after the women noticed it on the day portion of the group date.

For me the way he acts giving Lauren more attention/chasing her more than the others is most telling if it also happens when Jojo is there. Then its obvious at that stage Lauren was his F1.

Lauren B has a great body, awful hair in tonight's episode.  Caila has great hair, not into Ben.   Amanda's girls are Adorable!  JoJo confuses me more than Caila, she's Ben's confident, he thinks she's the one that knows and deals with the process better than anyone, and I would have thought he would think that about Becca.  Becca is flying under the radar, is she emotionally unavailable in general?  

Ben on the other hand is obviously having a difficult time.  I like him.

Miyala wrote:For me the way he acts giving Lauren more attention/chasing her more than the others is most telling if it also happens when Jojo is there. Then its obvious at that stage Lauren was his F1.

IA.. they generally keep the top two separate so they don't see it. For ex., Claire and Nikki didn't have a group date together. Very telling that he was so obvious that it shut all the girls down on that group date.

Bet2Win wrote:Lauren B has a great body, awful hair.  Caila has great hair, not into Ben.   Amanda's girls are Adorable!  JoJo confuses me more than Caila, she's Ben's confident, he thinks she's the one that knows and deals with the process better than anyone, and I would have thought he would think that about Becca.  Becca is flying under the radar, is she emotionally unavailable in general?  

Ben on the other hand is obviously having a difficult time.  I like him.  

My take on the Jo Jo conversation was that she had told him about her brother on Ready for Love and therefore knows how it goes. My unspoiled friends take on Caila tonight, "She's not into him for real." What she said made no sense, plus while she's confusing us and him, she says she loves him because he understands her.   I like Caila, but that was just all around awkward.


Claire Fallon ‏@ClaireEFallon  5h5 hours ago Brooklyn, NY
I can't believe that after dumping her ex for a tv crush, Caila's not totally into it with her tv crush ben. #TheBachelor

Jaclyn Swartz ‏@JaclynSwartz 6h6 hours ago
Caila: dumps boyfriend to go on The Bachelor. Dumps Bachelor to go on the Bachelorette. #TheBachelor