The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 5 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

give it up Alex doesn't want to be on the show

Ugh this "I'm in love with two women" BS puts me off. I would just say no thanks to Ben.

Haven't there been other Bachelors who have told two women they loved them? Didn't Sean and someone else?

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WTH Ben? That's ridic. Did he do a switcheroo at the end or was he just crying after JoJo while about to propose to Lauren? He looked really happy at the FRC though.

nothatgirl wrote:The whole Amanda thing just reminds me of the Tenley/JJ discussion we had a week ago, where the majority were saying that JJ cheating on his pregnant wife shouldn't be held against him and he should be given a chance to be forgiven. People ignore signs and stupidly forgive people all the time. At the end of the day, Amanda has two daughters she's crazy about and is taking responsibility for them, so it worked out for her. Hopefully, she'll be more careful in the future. IMO.

I don't know her ex and don't care to and am not defending him, but IMO a 22 yr old woman who gets pregnant and decides to marry a man who is shooting off red flags then repeats the whole nightmare a second time, does not scream responsible to me. I don't even want to bring into the fact, she then goes on a reality tv show to meet her next prospective red flag sperm donor. This girl needs to grow up fast before her daughters repeat the entire saga at 12 and 14. Grow up and develop some self esteem.

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Sprite wrote:Haven't there been other Bachelors who have told two women they loved them? Didn't Sean and someone else?

Yeah if I'm remembering correctly, Andy told Tessa and Bevin he loved them. Jason said during his media that he fell in love with two women but I don't believe he told both Melissa and Molly that on the show.

Seriously I just can't with that. I don't get these F1's who overlook all this BS and propose or let themselves be proposed to. Sorry I just care too much about saving face instead of looking like a second choice or just a slightly better choice. I guess I could never do this show and be the F1.

Kashathediva wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:The whole Amanda thing just reminds me of the Tenley/JJ discussion we had a week ago, where the majority were saying that JJ cheating on his pregnant wife shouldn't be held against him and he should be given a chance to be forgiven. People ignore signs and stupidly forgive people all the time. At the end of the day, Amanda has two daughters she's crazy about and is taking responsibility for them, so it worked out for her. Hopefully, she'll be more careful in the future. IMO.

I don't know her ex and don't care to and am not defending him, but IMO a 22 yr old woman who gets pregnant and decides to marry a man who is shooting off red flags then repeats the whole nightmare a second time, does not scream responsible to me. I don't even want to bring into the fact, she then goes on a reality tv show to meet her next prospective red flag sperm donor.  This girl needs to grow up fast before her daughters repeat the entire saga at 12 and 14. Grow up and develop some self esteem.

I'm not disagreeing that she made mistakes before, but I just personally think it's too harsh to call her unstable and to automatically think she doesn't currently have her ish together now. I truly don't think she came on to the show to meet a sperm donor, as she doesn't seem to be into Ben at all. I think she just came on for the free vacation and business opportunity; again, not saying that it's the most irresponsible thing but I don't really see someone who's insecure and desperate for a baby daddy now. JMO.

I haven't watched the episode yet But I detest it when any parent on this show throws their EX under the bus.  Particularly when the other parent is still in the childs/childrens life/lives.  Rude, classless and just plain wrong.  Please keep your dirty laundry off my TV. No excuses.  Adults choose who they have children with.  

JMO

Kashathediva wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:The whole Amanda thing just reminds me of the Tenley/JJ discussion we had a week ago, where the majority were saying that JJ cheating on his pregnant wife shouldn't be held against him and he should be given a chance to be forgiven. People ignore signs and stupidly forgive people all the time. At the end of the day, Amanda has two daughters she's crazy about and is taking responsibility for them, so it worked out for her. Hopefully, she'll be more careful in the future. IMO.

I don't know her ex and don't care to and am not defending him, but IMO a 22 yr old woman who gets pregnant and decides to marry a man who is shooting off red flags then repeats the whole nightmare a second time, does not scream responsible to me. I don't even want to bring into the fact, she then goes on a reality tv show to meet her next prospective red flag sperm donor.  This girl needs to grow up fast before her daughters repeat the entire saga at 12 and 14. Grow up and develop some self esteem.

ITA. She was saying she wasn't a teen mom because she had her kids at 22 and 24, but she sure wasn't very mature even at that age. If I was dating her, I'd be worried that she'll intentionally "forget" to take her birth control one day.

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