The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - NO SPOILERS - Discussion

Katiebelle wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:I have thought about Lauren's job as a flight attendent and what that entails. Perhaps Ben sees that as a negative. Just a thought.

Sorry - but what's the negative of being a flight attendant?

Neither girl lives in Denver so they will either have to do the long distance thing or someone has to move. Is Ben the type of guy that will expect the F1 to move - I don't know. They all seem to have jobs that could be relocated to another city. Just another thought - Does JoJo still live in the same city as her parents? Lauren has moved to LA from Portland and Ben to Denver to ? (can't remember his hometown).

Ben's hometown was Warsaw, Indiana. I don't think Ben would have a problem moving if that what they decided. Ben was willing to move with the ex but she didn't want him to move with her.

Katiebelle wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:I have thought about Lauren's job as a flight attendent and what that entails. Perhaps Ben sees that as a negative. Just a thought.

Sorry - but what's the negative of being a flight attendant?

Neither girl lives in Denver so they will either have to do the long distance thing or someone has to move. Is Ben the type of guy that will expect the F1 to move - I don't know. They all seem to have jobs that could be relocated to another city. Just another thought - Does JoJo still live in the same city as her parents? Lauren has moved to LA from Portland and Ben to Denver to ? (can't remember his hometown).

i had a friend whose wife was a flight attendant, she had a strange schedule and missed almost all the events he/we had, that's why it a negative to me. But is' ok when you 're single, not good for a marriage. JMHO

I sent GA a pm and asked about the tweet/video.  I'm on my iPad at the moment and can't get a link or embed code to come up to bring it over.  I don't want to post the tweet link and y'all follow it and get spoiled from comments people have posted below it.  Maybe she'll have better luck.

As long as the vid has been aired, then it's not considered a spoiler.

Here is the vid:

Ben's mom reveals her frontrunner...https://t.co/N06bL7GmRl

— The Bachelor (@BachelorABC) March 10, 2016

If you click the link above you will get just the video, none of the comments

Maggenzm wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:I have thought about Lauren's job as a flight attendent and what that entails. Perhaps Ben sees that as a negative. Just a thought.

Sorry - but what's the negative of being a flight attendant?

Neither girl lives in Denver so they will either have to do the long distance thing or someone has to move. Is Ben the type of guy that will expect the F1 to move - I don't know. They all seem to have jobs that could be relocated to another city. Just another thought - Does JoJo still live in the same city as her parents? Lauren has moved to LA from Portland and Ben to Denver to ? (can't remember his hometown).

i had a friend whose wife was a flight attendant, she had a strange schedule and missed almost all the events he/we had, that's why it a negative to me. But is' ok when you 're single, not good for a marriage. JMHO

There are lots of careers like that and many of those people have successful relationships. In my circle of friends I have a pilot, flight attendant, banker, importer and surgeon that all work crazy hours and often travel for business and they are all in successful long term relationships.

Katiebelle wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

Sorry - but what's the negative of being a flight attendant?

Neither girl lives in Denver so they will either have to do the long distance thing or someone has to move. Is Ben the type of guy that will expect the F1 to move - I don't know. They all seem to have jobs that could be relocated to another city. Just another thought - Does JoJo still live in the same city as her parents? Lauren has moved to LA from Portland and Ben to Denver to ? (can't remember his hometown).

i had a friend whose wife was a flight attendant, she had a strange schedule and missed almost all the events he/we had, that's why it a negative to me. But is' ok when you 're single, not good for a marriage. JMHO

There are lots of careers like that and many of those people have successful relationships. In my circle of friends I have a pilot, flight attendant, banker, importer and surgeon that all work crazy hours and often travel for business and they are all in successful long term relationships.

People can make all kinds of things work if they want to. I'm not saying marrying a flight attendent wouldn't work, just that it's not a traditional 9 to 5 job. There are lots of jobs that aren't 9 to 5. It was just an observation.

sophienette wrote:Here is the vid:

Ben's mom reveals her frontrunner...https://t.co/N06bL7GmRl

— The Bachelor (@BachelorABC) March 10, 2016

If you click the link above you will get just the video, none of the comments

Thank you so much! Is this from the ABC show website?
Nice to see that Mrs Higgins sees the same relationship with Jojo that I am seeing. No matter what happens at FRC, I can take comfort and satisfaction from that.

So, I realized this morning that we Spring Forward this weekend so we have 1 less hour to wait for the FRC to get here  This is the ONLY time I can ever remember being happy about loosing some weekend time!!!

I have been reading all the comments from last night and am LOL at the pregnancy stuff - slap happy posts were hysterical!

THANKS Soph and Ladybug for the SCs and the videos!  I love getting to see them without the fear of getting spoiled.  I like seeing a few more bits of the episode but truly it didn't seem to give much away.  We know Ben still loves two women, we know that he has a difficult choice to make.  IMO the 'surprise' seems to be coming from Ben, not for Ben.  Possibly the two have already made plans to move in together (??)  He said he would marry that woman tomorrow. It could be as simple as a confession from Ben about how he did love two women and how grateful he is the one he chose accepted him with the knowledge that he had deep feelings for another.  It takes alot of self confidence and trust to enter into a normal relationship, let alone one where someone claims to still love another.

I am convinced that the bathroom scene is presented as it happens with Ben and JoJo (thanks Mia for helping me to believe, even if it is our own personal fairy tale ).  I know they do VO all the time and can splice, dice, and edit scenes; but they put the captions on the screen, I haven't ever seen that done for a VO. It could be that they wanted to have a private conversation but production wouldn't allow it, so instead of having someone cuddling on the bathroom floor with them they compromised and just put a camera in there so they could use the footage if they so decided.  I imagine w/o a cameraman hovering over you like they have been for the past few weeks a person might tend to open up a bit more, especially in the emotional state they both seem to be in.  And again, I go back to the fact that they waited until the very end to reveal this footage to us, I cannot see it being used in such a deceitful manner (yes innocent thinking, I know!).  I am also wise enough to know that just because the conversation took place and they aired it doesn't mean JoJo has to be his F1.

Family, religion, job - if we are lucky enough we all have them.  They are an integral part of our lives, but I am not totally convinced they can lead our heart in a direction it doesn't want to go.

locoforbach wrote:So, I realized this morning that we Spring Forward this weekend so we have 1 less hour to wait for the FRC to get here  This is the ONLY time I can ever remember being happy about loosing some weekend time!!!

I have been reading all the comments from last night and am LOL at the pregnancy stuff - slap happy posts were hysterical!

THANKS Soph and Ladybug for the SCs and the videos!  I love getting to see them without the fear of getting spoiled.  I like seeing a few more bits of the episode but truly it didn't seem to give much away.  We know Ben still loves two women, we know that he has a difficult choice to make.  IMO the 'surprise' seems to be coming from Ben, not for Ben.  Possibly the two have already made plans to move in together (??)  He said he would marry that woman tomorrow. It could be as simple as a confession from Ben about how he did love two women and how grateful he is the one he chose accepted him with the knowledge that he had deep feelings for another.  It takes alot of self confidence and trust to enter into a normal relationship, let alone one where someone claims to still love another.

I am convinced that the bathroom scene is presented as it happens with Ben and JoJo (thanks Mia for helping me to believe, even if it is our own personal fairy tale ).  I know they do VO all the time and can splice, dice, and edit scenes; but they put the captions on the screen, I haven't ever seen that done for a VO. It could be that they wanted to have a private conversation but production wouldn't allow it, so instead of having someone cuddling on the bathroom floor with them they compromised and just put a camera in there so they could use the footage if they so decided.  I imagine w/o a cameraman hovering over you like they have been for the past few weeks a person might tend to open up a bit more, especially in the emotional state they both seem to be in.  And again, I go back to the fact that they waited until the very end to reveal this footage to us, I cannot see it being used in such a deceitful manner (yes innocent thinking, I know!).  I am also wise enough to know that just because the conversation took place and they aired it doesn't mean JoJo has to be his F1.

Family, religion, job - if we are lucky enough we all have them.  They are an integral part of our lives, but I am not totally convinced they can lead our heart in a direction it doesn't want to go.

I agree, I am just so confused, especially after watching his mom'video and watching their previews on the waterfall all wrapped up in each other, but more importantly, its Jojo communication skills, she wants to know and will ask him to step up to the plate. She will challenge him to make decisions when he can't.(OMG! what a match!). I just love their relationship, she is so open and will make such a great partner for him, I can see what his mom saw in JoJo. My hope is that he picks her, inpite of the red flags.JMO Is it Monday yet?

Maggenzm wrote:

locoforbach wrote:So, I realized this morning that we Spring Forward this weekend so we have 1 less hour to wait for the FRC to get here  This is the ONLY time I can ever remember being happy about loosing some weekend time!!!

I have been reading all the comments from last night and am LOL at the pregnancy stuff - slap happy posts were hysterical!

THANKS Soph and Ladybug for the SCs and the videos!  I love getting to see them without the fear of getting spoiled.  I like seeing a few more bits of the episode but truly it didn't seem to give much away.  We know Ben still loves two women, we know that he has a difficult choice to make.  IMO the 'surprise' seems to be coming from Ben, not for Ben.  Possibly the two have already made plans to move in together (??)  He said he would marry that woman tomorrow. It could be as simple as a confession from Ben about how he did love two women and how grateful he is the one he chose accepted him with the knowledge that he had deep feelings for another.  It takes alot of self confidence and trust to enter into a normal relationship, let alone one where someone claims to still love another.

I am convinced that the bathroom scene is presented as it happens with Ben and JoJo (thanks Mia for helping me to believe, even if it is our own personal fairy tale ).  I know they do VO all the time and can splice, dice, and edit scenes; but they put the captions on the screen, I haven't ever seen that done for a VO. It could be that they wanted to have a private conversation but production wouldn't allow it, so instead of having someone cuddling on the bathroom floor with them they compromised and just put a camera in there so they could use the footage if they so decided.  I imagine w/o a cameraman hovering over you like they have been for the past few weeks a person might tend to open up a bit more, especially in the emotional state they both seem to be in.  And again, I go back to the fact that they waited until the very end to reveal this footage to us, I cannot see it being used in such a deceitful manner (yes innocent thinking, I know!).  I am also wise enough to know that just because the conversation took place and they aired it doesn't mean JoJo has to be his F1.

Family, religion, job - if we are lucky enough we all have them.  They are an integral part of our lives, but I am not totally convinced they can lead our heart in a direction it doesn't want to go.

I agree, I am just so confused, especially after watching his mom'video and watching their previews on the waterfall all wrapped up in each other, but more importantly, its Jojo communication skills, she wants to know and will ask him to step up to the plate. She will challenge him to make decisions when he can't.(OMG! what a match!). I just love their relationship, she is so open and will make such a great partner for him, I can see what his mom saw in JoJo. My hope is that he picks her, inpite of the red flags.JMO Is it Monday yet?

I completely agree with you Mag   I think we have heard how much he and Lauren have in common family and religion wise, but I think if his heart tells him JoJo is the one then they will work through all of the other aspects.

locoforbach wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

locoforbach wrote:So, I realized this morning that we Spring Forward this weekend so we have 1 less hour to wait for the FRC to get here  This is the ONLY time I can ever remember being happy about loosing some weekend time!!!

I have been reading all the comments from last night and am LOL at the pregnancy stuff - slap happy posts were hysterical!

THANKS Soph and Ladybug for the SCs and the videos!  I love getting to see them without the fear of getting spoiled.  I like seeing a few more bits of the episode but truly it didn't seem to give much away.  We know Ben still loves two women, we know that he has a difficult choice to make.  IMO the 'surprise' seems to be coming from Ben, not for Ben.  Possibly the two have already made plans to move in together (??)  He said he would marry that woman tomorrow. It could be as simple as a confession from Ben about how he did love two women and how grateful he is the one he chose accepted him with the knowledge that he had deep feelings for another.  It takes alot of self confidence and trust to enter into a normal relationship, let alone one where someone claims to still love another.

I am convinced that the bathroom scene is presented as it happens with Ben and JoJo (thanks Mia for helping me to believe, even if it is our own personal fairy tale ).  I know they do VO all the time and can splice, dice, and edit scenes; but they put the captions on the screen, I haven't ever seen that done for a VO. It could be that they wanted to have a private conversation but production wouldn't allow it, so instead of having someone cuddling on the bathroom floor with them they compromised and just put a camera in there so they could use the footage if they so decided.  I imagine w/o a cameraman hovering over you like they have been for the past few weeks a person might tend to open up a bit more, especially in the emotional state they both seem to be in.  And again, I go back to the fact that they waited until the very end to reveal this footage to us, I cannot see it being used in such a deceitful manner (yes innocent thinking, I know!).  I am also wise enough to know that just because the conversation took place and they aired it doesn't mean JoJo has to be his F1.

Family, religion, job - if we are lucky enough we all have them.  They are an integral part of our lives, but I am not totally convinced they can lead our heart in a direction it doesn't want to go.

I agree, I am just so confused, especially after watching his mom'video and watching their previews on the waterfall all wrapped up in each other, but more importantly, its Jojo communication skills, she wants to know and will ask him to step up to the plate. She will challenge him to make decisions when he can't.(OMG! what a match!). I just love their relationship, she is so open and will make such a great partner for him, I can see what his mom saw in JoJo. My hope is that he picks her, inpite of the red flags.JMO Is it Monday yet?

I completely agree with you Mag   I think we have heard how much he and Lauren have in common family and religion wise, but I think if his heart tells him JoJo is the one then they will work through all of the other aspects.

like the saying "where there is a will, there is a way".