Re: Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by Guest Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:39 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
umngirl wrote:
I'm interested that these "friends" of Becca have suddenly popped up saying she wouldn't go on if he told her not to yet someone who also knows Becca said that's basically what happened. Seems like becca's camp needs to get a straight story.
That's if it is Becca's camp at all. Most of the info is coming from producers/emails, etc.

*Foiler alert* imho

And the only thing RS eventually got correct was stuff that we on this forum got correct too and before him.
Seems like we can "guess" on here and voila -- it comes to pass!! (someone get me a lottery ticket! )

Anything else said by RS that cannot be proven with evidence is just speculation.
Buying into what he says about Becca's motives or Ben's motives, IMHO, is taking one's eye off the ball -- which is sleuthing for the facts and things that can be proven.

One can discuss till the cows come home about motives or anything else, but I don't believe it until there is evidence to support it.
And so far there is none. Just a bunch of stories that make me take my eye off the ball.
Anyone can "guess" Becca won't be F1. Doesn't take any sleuthing or inside info to do that.

Oh look, another thing he is wrong about. He's making her out to be a famewhore, and a famewhore Becca is not.

by Guest Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:41 pm

bluwavz wrote:
eversotrue wrote:Just want to say, I hope Ben is okay. I hope he's not miserable, and hopeless at this point in the game..

Me too. I'm thinking maybe he'll just be better off walking away alone.

We only have bits and pieces of the story, so there's obviously so much we don't know. But what we do know as of now, it ain't all that great. I just hope he's enjoying this experience and at least genuinely likes a few of the ladies. Like we always say, it only takes 1 (most of the time!)

by Guest Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:42 pm

DebutAlbum wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
umngirl wrote:
I'm interested that these "friends" of Becca have suddenly popped up saying she wouldn't go on if he told her not to yet someone who also knows Becca said that's basically what happened. Seems like becca's camp needs to get a straight story.
That's if it is Becca's camp at all. Most of the info is coming from producers/emails, etc.

*Foiler alert* imho

And the only thing RS eventually got correct was stuff that we on this forum got correct too and before him.
Seems like we can "guess" on here and voila -- it comes to pass!! (someone get me a lottery ticket! )

Anything else said by RS that cannot be proven with evidence is just speculation.
Buying into what he says about Becca's motives or Ben's motives, IMHO, is taking one's eye off the ball -- which is sleuthing for the facts and things that can be proven.

One can discuss till the cows come home about motives or anything else, but I don't believe it until there is evidence to support it.
And so far there is none. Just a bunch of stories that make me take my eye off the ball.
Anyone can "guess" Becca won't be F1. Doesn't take any sleuthing or inside info to do that.

Oh look, another thing he is wrong about. He's making her out to be a famewhore, and a famewhore Becca is not.

Most everyone thinks she's a famewhore on the internet. Can't really blame him on that. Maybe you're in the wrong place?? Lol

by AllAboutLove Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:44 pm

umngirl wrote:In the search for truth, here is the full quote from his site. Again, he uses the words "I think" and "highly doubt" but never once says a strong "no, not happening 100%". This was posted Sept. 3rd.
However, the biggest question I seem to be getting is, “Which former contestants are gonna be on Ben’s season? Is Becca gonna do it? Is Britt? Is Tenley?” The answer is no one knows until filming starts. Maybe they will cast someone from a previous season, maybe they won’t. However, IF they do, I don’t think it’ll be any of those three. Tenley has gone on record saying she wouldn’t do it. Could she be influenced by producers? It’s possible. But right now I think it’s highly, highly unlikely she’ll do it. Britt? Not happening. As for Becca because she sent out a tweet, once again, it’s a case of just because you see something on social media doesn’t mean it’s true. I highly doubt Becca will be on the show either from what I’m hearing.
Source

And in searching for truth, most people, including myself said "I think Becca will be on the show" and voila!! She is!! :yes:

Like I said, we "guess" better than RS does:
- We "guessed" that last season's spoiler was a foiler and we were correct.
- We "guessed" that Becca was going on the show and we were correct.
- We "guessed" that Becca had a 1on1 date and we were correct.
- And all of these "guesses" became "spoilers" for RS. Suspect

Pat yourselves on the back fellow forum members. :Nod:
We can "guess" better than RS (not hard to do, IMHO).

:claphands

by Guest Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:44 pm

umngirl wrote:In the search for truth, here is the full quote from his site. Again, he uses the words "I think" and "highly doubt" but never once says a strong "no, not happening 100%". This was posted Sept. 3rd.
However, the biggest question I seem to be getting is, “Which former contestants are gonna be on Ben’s season? Is Becca gonna do it? Is Britt? Is Tenley?” The answer is no one knows until filming starts. Maybe they will cast someone from a previous season, maybe they won’t. However, IF they do, I don’t think it’ll be any of those three. Tenley has gone on record saying she wouldn’t do it. Could she be influenced by producers? It’s possible. But right now I think it’s highly, highly unlikely she’ll do it. Britt? Not happening. As for Becca because she sent out a tweet, once again, it’s a case of just because you see something on social media doesn’t mean it’s true. I highly doubt Becca will be on the show either from what I’m hearing.

Source

Thanks for bringing that over. I believe the same people that were talking to RS were talking to RJ, since she seemed pretty confident Becca wouldn't be doing it and, afterwards, said that her inner circle had done a VERY good job of misleading everyone. .

Again, I think that there's this issue that RS got this "prediction" 66% right, when Half the board here was convinced Tenley would absolutely do it and be in the running for bachelorette next season. People on this board make incorrect predictions/guesses all the time (see:Nick will be the bachelor, Nick will be on DWTS, the plane video was faked, etc), but we don't mock them forever for it. Guessing is part of the fun and it's okay to be wrong as long as you don't say your opinion is fact.

(jmo)

by umngirl Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:47 pm

DebutAlbum wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
umngirl wrote:
I'm interested that these "friends" of Becca have suddenly popped up saying she wouldn't go on if he told her not to yet someone who also knows Becca said that's basically what happened. Seems like becca's camp needs to get a straight story.
That's if it is Becca's camp at all. Most of the info is coming from producers/emails, etc.

*Foiler alert* imho

And the only thing RS eventually got correct was stuff that we on this forum got correct too and before him.
Seems like we can "guess" on here and voila -- it comes to pass!! (someone get me a lottery ticket! )

Anything else said by RS that cannot be proven with evidence is just speculation.
Buying into what he says about Becca's motives or Ben's motives, IMHO, is taking one's eye off the ball -- which is sleuthing for the facts and things that can be proven.

One can discuss till the cows come home about motives or anything else, but I don't believe it until there is evidence to support it.
And so far there is none. Just a bunch of stories that make me take my eye off the ball.
Anyone can "guess" Becca won't be F1. Doesn't take any sleuthing or inside info to do that.

Oh look, another thing he is wrong about. He's making her out to be a famewhore, and a famewhore Becca is not.

Everyone who goes on this show is a famewhore to some extent. Otherwise they wouldn't go on tv in the first place. She seems to be taking full advantage of doing things that keep her in the public eye so she clearly has no problem with it.

Back to the original response to me.

So are we not supposed to trust RJ because they've been here awhile and proved to be reliable about things? Or are we only supposed to trust their info if it differs from RS? I'm confused here because no offense to these new "friends" but I haven't seen any proof of your reliability so I'm questioning how I'm supposed to determine you are correct but another from Becca's camp is wrong.

by SLA44 Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:48 pm

I just saw this article on Google news site and didn't know if it had been posted somewhere over here or not:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2494914/the-bachelor-2016-spoilers-and-speculation-has-ben-higgins-already-sent-becca-tilley-packing/

by Kashathediva Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:49 pm

umngirl wrote:In the search for truth, here is the full quote from his site. Again, he uses the words "I think" and "highly doubt" but never once says a strong "no, not happening 100%". This was posted Sept. 3rd.
However, the biggest question I seem to be getting is, “Which former contestants are gonna be on Ben’s season? Is Becca gonna do it? Is Britt? Is Tenley?” The answer is no one knows until filming starts. Maybe they will cast someone from a previous season, maybe they won’t. However, IF they do, I don’t think it’ll be any of those three. Tenley has gone on record saying she wouldn’t do it. Could she be influenced by producers? It’s possible. But right now I think it’s highly, highly unlikely she’ll do it. Britt? Not happening. As for Becca because she sent out a tweet, once again, it’s a case of just because you see something on social media doesn’t mean it’s true. I highly doubt Becca will be on the show either from what I’m hearing.

Source

IMO hairs are being split.
Reading the above I come away with the person(in this case RS) does not think Becca will be on the show.
Does this mean we should boil him in oil if he is wrong? I guess I will leave that to the mercy of each individual member. cantstopl

Does it mean he was 100% and willing to sacrifice Maddy if wrong? Probably not.
But there is no way I come away from reading this quote and think anything less than RS is saying Becca will most likely not be on the show and then goes on to say he highly doubts it.
So no it's not 100%, let's not sacrifice Maddy, thank goodness, as she is cute, but lets not even suggest he was waffling. He meant no.

by Guest Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:49 pm

eversotrue wrote:
DebutAlbum wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
That's if it is Becca's camp at all. Most of the info is coming from producers/emails, etc.

*Foiler alert* imho

And the only thing RS eventually got correct was stuff that we on this forum got correct too and before him.
Seems like we can "guess" on here and voila -- it comes to pass!! (someone get me a lottery ticket! )

Anything else said by RS that cannot be proven with evidence is just speculation.
Buying into what he says about Becca's motives or Ben's motives, IMHO, is taking one's eye off the ball -- which is sleuthing for the facts and things that can be proven.

One can discuss till the cows come home about motives or anything else, but I don't believe it until there is evidence to support it.
And so far there is none. Just a bunch of stories that make me take my eye off the ball.
Anyone can "guess" Becca won't be F1. Doesn't take any sleuthing or inside info to do that.

Oh look, another thing he is wrong about. He's making her out to be a famewhore, and a famewhore Becca is not.
Most everyone thinks she's a famewhore on the internet. Can't really blame him on that. Maybe you're in the wrong place?? Lol

The people who actually know her know that she isn't. She is completely genuine in going after Ben.

by umngirl Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:50 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
umngirl wrote:In the search for truth, here is the full quote from his site. Again, he uses the words "I think" and "highly doubt" but never once says a strong "no, not happening 100%". This was posted Sept. 3rd.
However, the biggest question I seem to be getting is, “Which former contestants are gonna be on Ben’s season? Is Becca gonna do it? Is Britt? Is Tenley?” The answer is no one knows until filming starts. Maybe they will cast someone from a previous season, maybe they won’t. However, IF they do, I don’t think it’ll be any of those three. Tenley has gone on record saying she wouldn’t do it. Could she be influenced by producers? It’s possible. But right now I think it’s highly, highly unlikely she’ll do it. Britt? Not happening. As for Becca because she sent out a tweet, once again, it’s a case of just because you see something on social media doesn’t mean it’s true. I highly doubt Becca will be on the show either from what I’m hearing.
Source
And in searching for truth, most people, including myself said "I think Becca will be on the show" and voila!! She is!!

Like I said, we "guess" better than RS does:
- We "guessed" that last season's spoiler was a foiler and we were correct.
- We "guessed" that Becca was going on the show and we were correct.
- We "guessed" that Becca had a 1on1 date and we were correct.
- And all of these "guesses" became "spoilers" for RS.

Pat yourselves on the back fellow forum members. :Nod:
We can "guess" better than RS (not hard to do, IMHO).

People "guessed" Becca was Chris' F1.
People "guessed" Nick was Kaitlyn's F1.
People "guessed" so-and-so was F1 when they weren't.

Many here make just as many incorrect guesses. But it would be rude of us to bring it up to each other all the time when they are guesses.

by Kashathediva Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:55 pm

chasingpavements wrote:
umngirl wrote:In the search for truth, here is the full quote from his site. Again, he uses the words "I think" and "highly doubt" but never once says a strong "no, not happening 100%". This was posted Sept. 3rd.
However, the biggest question I seem to be getting is, “Which former contestants are gonna be on Ben’s season? Is Becca gonna do it? Is Britt? Is Tenley?” The answer is no one knows until filming starts. Maybe they will cast someone from a previous season, maybe they won’t. However, IF they do, I don’t think it’ll be any of those three. Tenley has gone on record saying she wouldn’t do it. Could she be influenced by producers? It’s possible. But right now I think it’s highly, highly unlikely she’ll do it. Britt? Not happening. As for Becca because she sent out a tweet, once again, it’s a case of just because you see something on social media doesn’t mean it’s true. I highly doubt Becca will be on the show either from what I’m hearing.

Source

Thanks for bringing that over. I believe the same people that were talking to RS were talking to RJ, since she seemed pretty confident Becca wouldn't be doing it and, afterwards, said that her inner circle had done a VERY good job of misleading everyone. .

Again, I think that there's this issue that RS got this "prediction" 66% right, when Half the board here was convinced Tenley would absolutely do it and be in the running for bachelorette next season. People on this board make incorrect predictions/guesses all the time (see:Nick will be the bachelor, Nick will be on DWTS, the plane video was faked, etc), but we don't mock them forever for it. Guessing is part of the fun and it's okay to be wrong as long as you don't say your opinion is fact.

(jmo) !!

Per the bolded:
When was this poll taken and where can I find it? Rolling Eyes

I feel like Rip Van Winkle only I know I wasn't asleep for 100 yrs.
Part of members making incorrect speculations is when things are posted that are simply incorrect and are not fact, but opinions.
On a personal aside, I take umbrage when I feel I am lumped into "those people" etc. groups. I like to pride myself on having enough intelligence to make intelligent decisions. That's why I am constantly being a stickler for facts vs opinions.
I can deal with opinions. They teach me things and can change my outlook. They are healthy. I have no problem with them. I love a good discussion.
I do have problems with things that are not facts being written as such.
Thank you done with rant. :soapbox

by Beagle Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:56 pm

eversotrue wrote:
DebutAlbum wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
That's if it is Becca's camp at all. Most of the info is coming from producers/emails, etc.

*Foiler alert* imho

And the only thing RS eventually got correct was stuff that we on this forum got correct too and before him.
Seems like we can "guess" on here and voila -- it comes to pass!! (someone get me a lottery ticket! )

Anything else said by RS that cannot be proven with evidence is just speculation.
Buying into what he says about Becca's motives or Ben's motives, IMHO, is taking one's eye off the ball -- which is sleuthing for the facts and things that can be proven.

One can discuss till the cows come home about motives or anything else, but I don't believe it until there is evidence to support it.
And so far there is none. Just a bunch of stories that make me take my eye off the ball.
Anyone can "guess" Becca won't be F1. Doesn't take any sleuthing or inside info to do that.

Oh look, another thing he is wrong about. He's making her out to be a famewhore, and a famewhore Becca is not.
Most everyone thinks she's a famewhore on the internet. Can't really blame him on that. Maybe you're in the wrong place?? Lol

Becca has a lot of fans on SM. IMO, I don't think most everyone thinks she's a famewhore. I find her likeable, albeit sometimes a little immature but still likeable to me. I'm more than ok if Ben and Becca end up together.

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