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Post by kraft33 Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:33 pm

Thanks RJ for sharing with us. Totally agree that Becca doesn't seem ready to settle down. She seems like she crushes a lot on guys and not ready for marriage. Which like you said, is not bad. I really hope Ben finds real love though. I hope they gave him some great girls that are marriage material.

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Post by umngirl Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:33 pm

BlackHalo wrote:As messy as this all is, it would be amazing if Becca turned it around and they actually end up together.  Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*  - Page 32 3806527698

In my mind, no. I think Ben deserves someone incredible and ready for a future. I don't think Becca is either of those things. JMO


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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:36 pm

BlackHalo wrote:As messy as this all is, it would be amazing if Becca turned it around and they actually end up together.  Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*  - Page 32 3806527698

Right?? I'm actually rooting for that to happen now, just because it really would be the most shocking ending ever.

That would be a horrible love story though. "Hey, babe, remember when you asked me not to come on the show because I stood up your good friend, but I pursued/stalked you anyways and finally wore you down?"


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Post by BlackHalo Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:37 pm

chasingpavements wrote:
BlackHalo wrote:As messy as this all is, it would be amazing if Becca turned it around and they actually end up together.  Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*  - Page 32 3806527698

Right?? I'm actually rooting for that to happen now, just because it really would be the most shocking ending ever.

That would be a horrible love story though. "Hey, babe, remember when you asked me not to come on the show because I stood up your good friend, but I pursued/stalked you anyways and finally wore you down?"


(jmo)
This new tidbit definitely has me more intrigued. It's like a plot from a bad romcom.

umngirl wrote:In my mind, no. I think Ben deserves someone incredible and ready for a future. I don't think Becca is either of those things. JMO
I agree but I would give her props if she still ended up with the guy despite all these strikes against her.

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Post by Kashathediva Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:40 pm

Julz91 wrote:I feel like there had to be some kind of incentive for Becca to still go on because IMO no one in their right mind would still go on after being asked by the lead not to. She had to feel 2 feet tall hopping out of the limo for a man that told her he doesn't want her. I'm sure if her family didn't know this information before, they will soon and won't be too happy.
How does she know Ben did not want her to be there? This smacks of past history of TPTB working her and letting her think her return is desired. Especially if Bachnation or production had an idea she was interested in coming back for Ben.



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Post by AllAboutLove Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:41 pm

Some of this story may be true but I am not buying it all. Anyone can have "emails" from producers/etc. Hard to prove this as fact.

And I am doubtful that Becca's sisters/close friends if they knew this to be true would be corroborating or revealing anything relating to producers/crew emails that paints Becca in a negative light, etc.

I don't want to be like RS and wait for a snapchat. affraid

So "Skeptical glasses" fully on. Doesn't mean that Becca will be F1, but the "story" is being spun already why she won't be and I am not falling hook line and sinker just yet. That's RS's job. laugh out loud
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:44 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:This is bizarre. I wonder if Becca and her family are okay with info that paints a negative light upon Becca... since they are such a private family it seems odd. It seems this info that Ben didn't want Becca would be more trying in itself than just her on the show? I don't see why this would be something they'd want people to know if one is close to her? I just don't see her friends and family who are close to her saying "Ben doesn't want Becca" even if it is true. Seems odd scratch


Obviously we are all able to choose to believe what we want but my skeptical hat is on.  :Nod:

I will keep all eyes open... especially for foilers and aware that any information that is coming from producers or film crew with access to any emails may or may not be part of a plan where even the sleuthing here is attempted to be foiled along with RS. TPTB went out of their way last season to foil RS and it worked on RS (RS has Kaitlyn to thank that he was able to "change" his mind) but the sleuthing here was already on track that Shawn was likely F1 and SHV sluethed, etc., and the sleuthers were the ones not getting foiled.  :yes:

So with that in mind, who knows... I think that while some info may be correct because it can be corroborated and proven to be so (that Becca had a date for example and was on the show), other info could be planted. So until then... I will do what this forum is best at... look at all the angles and watch out for the foilers  :detective

I never posted on here, and I haven't been told by Becca's family/friends that "Ben didn't want her." I used the word "returnees" because he wanted fresh people, "her" implies that there is something specifically he does not like about her. At least that's how I take it. And if they did tell me, I would never post that.

When I said "Ben didn't think it would be the best idea for Becca to be on the show," I didn't get that e-mail from Becca's family/friends.


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Post by bleuberry Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:44 pm

chasingpavements wrote:
BlackHalo wrote:As messy as this all is, it would be amazing if Becca turned it around and they actually end up together.  Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*  - Page 32 3806527698

Right?? I'm actually rooting for that to happen now, just because it really would be the most shocking ending ever.

That would be a horrible love story though. "Hey, babe, remember when you asked me not to come on the show because I stood up your good friend, but I pursued/stalked you anyways and finally wore you down?"


(jmo)

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Now I'm even more eager to find out why he didn't just send her home right away.


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Post by GuardianAngel Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:46 pm

I agree Kasha and AAL. Becca is told that Ben doesn't want her on the show but she goes anyway? I would think she's smarter than that.

Lets say she is told by TPTB that Ben wants her on the show. Wouldn't this raise red flags because apparently he told her himself he doesn't want her on the show?

None of this makes sense to me.


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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:47 pm

RammerJammer91 wrote:
eversotrue wrote:
RammerJammer91 wrote:

RJ, do you know when Ben and Becca spoke about her coming on the show?
About a week and a half before filming.

And why/when they got into contact in the first place?
The first time, she reached out to say "hi" and they chatted briefly.

Through Kaitlyn? Did they speak only a few times? Do you know the jist of what was said on both ends?
Kaitlyn definitely talked to producers about Becca returning. She can deny it, but it's the truth. She put in some work. I have e-mails and other information that support that. I heard that Kaitlyn/Shawn asked Ben about his thoughts on Becca. I'm pretty sure that happened, but I can't confirm that. Ben and Becca talked a few times. I received e-mails saying that Ben "didn't think it would be the best idea for Becca to be on the show." Don't know to what degree he emphasized his thoughts. She REALLY wanted to meet him.

Does her family know he told her not to waste her breath?
His reaction? I'm not sure. But Becca repeatedly said that she wanted to see if something could happen between the two of them.
1) So they first ever spoke a week and half before the show? Or, just spoke about her coming on a week and a half before the show?
2) Did she ask/mention it to him? Or did he bring it up (cause of the rumors?)
3) Of course Kaitlyn had to put her two cents in... So you don't know how peesistant he was in telling her not to come on?? And that it didn't give her the memo to stay away..?
4) Does Beccas family know that Ben told her not to come on the show?
5) What's this about Ben and Jared speaking about Becca??

I answered a few of these in a previous post. The one's I haven't:
2.) He's no dummy, he knew the rumors were out there (same with Tenley and Britt), but Becca got in contact with him.
3.) I don't know how persistent he was. He just didn't want people returning.
5.) Ben and Jared are friends. They talk. Plus he heard from others what happened. He was baffled by the situation. No clue if he discussed that with Becca.

My responses in 3 and 5 are big reasons why I've been saying I've been told that Becca wasn't going to be F1.
Do you know which others he heard the Becca/Jared stuff from? Contestants on Kaitlyns season? Or Chris'? So you think Ben won't get anywhere with Becca because 1) he's not interested in her romantically 2) he didnt want returnees on the season/he wanted all new ladies 3) Jared is his friend and he doesn't like that she turned him down to go on his season?

Btw, why did Becca get in contact with Jared, if she supposedly liked Ben so much? And was thinking about going on his season?

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Post by Julz91 Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:50 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
Julz91 wrote:I feel like there had to be some kind of incentive for Becca to still go on because IMO no one in their right mind would still go on after being asked by the lead not to. She had to feel 2 feet tall hopping out of the limo for a man that told her he doesn't want her. I'm sure if her family didn't know this information before, they will soon and won't be too happy.
How does she know Ben did not want her to be there? This smacks of past history of TPTB working her and letting her think her return is desired. Especially if Bachnation or production had an idea she was interested in coming back for Ben.

You're right, we don't know what exactly has been said. All I'm saying is if she went on the show without being swayed by production after Ben said not to come on, there would have to be an incentive to do so IMO.

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Maybe Tenley really would of went on Ben's season, if he allowed her. Lol He obviously didn't want any people coming back. Poor them. The guy was obviously not having any of it...

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