Re: Becca Tilley - Bachelor 19 - Discussion - #9

by **GuardianAngel** Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:27 pm

RammerJammer91 wrote:snipped..

She was oblivious to what went on behind the behind-the-scenes. And by that I mean the degree production went to to basically force a proposal and certain emotions out of the lead and contestants. I still think she's oblivious that the lead essentially "has to" propose. Force might not be the right word, but I think you get what I mean. She wouldn't have accepted a proposal, but I can tell you that she would have been very happy to date him if he picked her. She had genuine feelings for him and she really liked him. A lot of people thought she was a robot because she didn't cry in the limo, but she was really sad. Wanna know a secret? She did cry off camera when she went to a hotel. It wasn't a day-long cryfest by any means, but she did cry.

If Chris let Whitney go early, and he proposed to Becca, she would have been "engaged" to him. The reason being that it's in the contract that female contestants cannot reject a proposal from the lead on the Bachelor. They would have forced her to say "yes." Even if she said "no, I can't do that, but I care about you a lot and want to date you," they would have dropped everything and kept shooting proposal scenes until she said "yes." I'm not kidding when I say that.

If things weren't working out with Ben, I would think she would leave early. She will be more open to a proposal this time around, but I still don't see her dropping the L-bomb because the show is forcing her to do so. She didn't last time and she won't this time. If she says the L-word, it will be because she really means it. Based on the conversations I've had, as well as my own observations, she is not ready to get married right now, let alone engaged. Could she be ready? Sure. But I don't see it. It's entirely possible that they could date for 1-2 years and then she'd be ready. We will have to see.

Re the bold. We know that. We have seen what happens to those they can't force a proposal, and to those who do propose just for the sake of a contract, re CS obviously was told to propose to Whitney because she'd say yes, and Becca wouldn't. She shouldn't put herself in that selfish position of thinking she doesn't have to accept a proposal, and would rather just date for a couple of years. IOW's, let me do what I want because I can just get more tv time, and break up if I feel like it without being engaged. She is putting herself in a very difficult position. Returnee's are never well liked, they'll have a hayday with her IMO.

by Guest Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:38 pm

RammerJammer91 wrote:
Mustang19 wrote:
RammerJammer91 wrote:

Hmm...

RJ - Sorry if this was already asked, but if Becca was not ready to get married or engaged to Chris, did she know that earlier than when she left? I'm wondering why she didn't bow out if she wasn't feeling it. (producers?) Would she bow out early if things weren't working out with Ben? Really wondering if she has addressed the fact that by going on again, someone can propose and what would she do.

She was oblivious to what went on behind the behind-the-scenes. And by that I mean the degree production went to to basically force a proposal and certain emotions out of the lead and contestants. I still think she's oblivious that the lead essentially "has to" propose. Force might not be the right word, but I think you get what I mean. She wouldn't have accepted a proposal, but I can tell you that she would have been very happy to date him if he picked her. She had genuine feelings for him and she really liked him. A lot of people thought she was a robot because she didn't cry in the limo, but she was really sad. Wanna know a secret? She did cry off camera when she went to a hotel. It wasn't a day-long cryfest by any means, but she did cry.

If Chris let Whitney go early, and he proposed to Becca, she would have been "engaged" to him. The reason being that it's in the contract that female contestants cannot reject a proposal from the lead on the Bachelor. They would have forced her to say "yes." Even if she said "no, I can't do that, but I care about you a lot and want to date you," they would have dropped everything and kept shooting proposal scenes until she said "yes." I'm not kidding when I say that.

If things weren't working out with Ben, I would think she would leave early. She will be more open to a proposal this time around, but I still don't see her dropping the L-bomb because the show is forcing her to do so. She didn't last time and she won't this time. If she says the L-word, it will be because she really means it. Based on the conversations I've had, as well as my own observations, she is not ready to get married right now, let alone engaged. Could she be ready? Sure. But I don't see it. It's entirely possible that they could date for 1-2 years and then she'd be ready. We will have to see.

Aw, that makes my past Chris/Becca shipper heart happy. I loved the emotion in their hotel "argument" the day before the proposal - I thought that they really seemed to want to be together in that moment. And, I think Becca even talked about crying off-camera. I think it was in that church interview she did? In hindsight, I don't think that they would have worked out either, but I actually think Chris was in love with her or in the process of falling for her, which I never saw with Whitney.

by loveactually9 Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:51 pm

I highly doubt Becca will be the F1, but if she does get down to the Final 2 or 3 (which I also doubt) because they do happen to have some sort of connection, I think she will have fallen much, much harder for Ben than she did for Chris.

by Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:21 am

I have to ask why she just didn't ask her bestie Kaitlyn to set her up with Ben?? There was enough time between the shows for that to happen before Ben signed the contract. I think that if she really was interested she would have done that. I mean dang Shawn or Kaitlyn could have picked up the phone and called Ben and said Becca wants to meet you. Dang I know I would have done that if I was Becca and really interested in Ben. Now it seems like she is just desperate for attention the show will give her. IMO

by Alanna Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:30 am

ICU wrote:I have to ask why she just didn't ask her bestie Kaitlyn to set her up with Ben?? There was enough time between the shows for that to happen before Ben signed the contract. I think that if she really was interested she would have done that. I mean dang Shawn or Kaitlyn could have picked up the phone and called Ben and said Becca wants to meet you. Dang I know I would have done that if I was Becca and really interested in Ben. Now it seems like she is just desperate for attention the show will give her. IMO

Ben was always going to be the lead imo. There's nothing anyone could have done to have stopped it; maybe if he met Becca earlier, he would have given up the role for her but not within weeks of meeting. If they happen to end up together, I'm sure Kait will be over the moon thrilled, but I don't think she could have made it happen just because Becca asked her to. If people believed tog last season, I see no reason to not believe Becca this season- that she's there because Ben is amazing and hot and perfect. And actually, can I join the show too if possible??? Sigh. Ben heartbeat

by Kashathediva Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:38 am

Perhaps the meeting didn't happen pre-show because it was storyboarded for it to happen during show. Thus, nothing could happen pre-show.

by Ash2214 Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:53 am

I could think of more annoying people that could be returning for another season. I didn't watch a lot, but from the little of Becca that I did see, I didn't mind her. A lot of 25-28 year olds don't have everything figured out. For some people it takes longer than it does for others. I think being a good person is the most important thing.

In all seriousness, if I was on a season with Chris-No Lips-Soules and then the next season was Ben Higgins, I would 100% fly my bum out to LA to be on his season.

by Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:10 am

She does think he's hot. But as I have said before, she cares more about the inside...a person's heart/character. She has gone on dates with guys that are "average" or "below average" in the looks department and turned down hot guys with not quite as much substance. She prefers the former rather than the latter. It just so happens that Ben has good character and is good-looking.

The most important things to her are:
Someone with a good heart
Someone who loves God
Someone who is loyal
Someone who is kind and will treat her right

by albean99 Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:25 am

I'm just hoping that Ben lets her go as early as they'll let him assuming she's on which I am reluctantly. I don't know why Becca goes on TB twice knowing she's not ready for an engagement. That's great irl but she should know the score by now of this show. I feel like she's wasting a bunch of people's time including Ben's and the viewers.

by mindless Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:48 am

I don't see Ben sending her home night one, since she's Kaitlyn's bestie and he supposedly liked Kaitlyn, so he must be curious about her. But I do hope he sends her home as soon as he doesn't see a future with her. I don't want her to distract from the real love story of the season. It'll feel like such a waste if he drags her along for the whole ride just dump her at the end like Kaitlyn did with Nick.

by BlackHalo Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:29 pm

I just don't want Ben to invest in someone who isn't ready for what he's looking for. In that regard, yes, she is wasting his time.

by **GuardianAngel** Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:33 pm

There were a lot of people that didn't believe TOG's motives, so I'm not sure why Becca's motives are valid especially when we know marriage is the furthest item on her agenda.

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