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Post by snowyglow12 Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:19 pm

atem wrote:I didn't see Alex anywhere in the ad. scratch   I couldn't even tell who his family or friends were in it.

I can't do screen grabs but there were a couple of shots where you could see Alex's nose and another where you could see his ring in shots with Sam in white.
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Post by marysegap Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:13 pm

They are starting to mess with our heads again hissyfit

It is SOO BAD! because why :soapbox  is it that they always have to hide the love story from us!  

If Richie end up winning... them many of us will be thinking .. but she obviously was physically more attracted to Sasha!... And we would all like to believe that F1 should have it ALL!   So today after watching Richie's date, I now put Sasha and Richie on an even  50/50 chance.

Michael NO chance,  if anything he is the one they would like to have for the next Bachelor...( this if they can help his credibility which seems not an easy thing to do )

Sasha... I like so much but I personally don't see as the Bachelor. If the gets his heart broken ...the experience will be soooo bad, I don't believe he will be  interested into trying again in front of cameras.

So... it is confusing.  Richie instead if he ends up as F2 could be the next bachelor. I believe he would go for that.

About those comments of Sasha getting drunk and fooling around the casinos. I always think that with all the publicity they have, lots of people know who they are. If the went into a public place in that way, WE WOULD SEE PHOTOS and even videos!! like we have seen of Michael with Emily..  Today EVERYONE have photo cameras on their phones!  So..... Rolling Eyes

Well ladies, there is little more to do than WAIT, this season originally started like an easy to guess one but has become very confusing. AT least for me! sad

PD:  It there is something good about it it is that even when my favorite is Sasha...I don't dislike Richie at all, and would be happy too if he ends up winning. handwave


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Post by EmmK Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:17 pm

@marysegap I am actually not confused at all. I totally think Richie is the Heather of this season= total friendzone. I just don't see her that romantically interested in Richie although they had so much fun on that date. But it's interesting to read all the comments and see everyone sleuth about Richie. Sasha all the way man. (Especially after he left the room last night after Davey left, he became so emotional) <3

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Post by marysegap Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:24 pm

EmmK wrote:@marysegap I am actually not confused at all. I totally think Richie is the Heather of this season= total friendzone. I just don't see her that romantically interested in Richie although they had so much fun on that date. But it's interesting to read all the comments and see everyone sleuth about Richie. Sasha all the way man. (Especially after he left the room last night after Davey left, he became so emotional) <3

OH but I have no doubt that Sasha IS ALREADY in love!.. I can see it too, poor man is already suffering but... and I do think she still interested ( even when they don't show that much anymore )
But I prefer to keep open on thinking that maybe Richie has some qualities that make her more comfortable. WHO KNOWS... I just don't want to put all my eggs in the same basket or get myself on a cloud....It does hurt when you fall...:gotcha: :yes:
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:30 pm

marysegap wrote:They are starting to mess with our heads again hissyfit

It is SOO BAD! because why :soapbox  is it that they always have to hide the love story from us!  

If Richie end up winning... them many of us will be thinking .. but she obviously was physically more attracted to Sasha!... And we would all like to believe that F1 should have it ALL!   So today after watching Richie's date, I now put Sasha and Richie on an even  50/50 chance.

Michael NO chance,  if anything he is the one they would like to have for the next Bachelor...( this if they can help his credibility which seems not an easy thing to do )

Sasha... I like so much but I personally don't see as the Bachelor. If the gets his heart broken ...the experience will be soooo bad, I don't believe he will be  interested into trying again in front of cameras.

So... it is confusing.  Richie instead if he ends up as F2 could be the next bachelor. I believe he would go for that.

About those comments of Sasha getting drunk and fooling around the casinos. I always think that with all the publicity they have, lots of people know who they are. If the went into a public place in that way, WE WOULD SEE PHOTOS and even videos!! like we have seen of Michael with Emily..  Today EVERYONE have photo cameras on their phones!  So..... Rolling Eyes

Well ladies, there is little more to do than WAIT, this season originally started like an easy to guess one but has become very confusing. AT least for me! sad

PD:  It there is something good about it it is that even when my favorite is Sasha...I don't dislike Richie at all, and would be happy too if he ends up winning. handwave

I really wouldnt say Michael has no chance. She clearly has an interest in him and lets not forget "kiss me anytime you want pass".
Sasha is the obvious choice from day 1, Richie is the new contender and Michael the steady contender in the background. All 3 have a chance with her and the coming weeks will tell which 2 are stronger contenders.

I know some are saying Michael cant win because he has no SD, but his connection is clearly stronger than some who have had SD, reminds me of how some thought Snez couldnt win because she had no intro video. Just saying.....

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Post by EmmK Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:31 pm

Bahahha @marysegap yea. I guess you have to detach yourself and realize it's a show about somebody else's life. We obviously don't know how they're feeling but their body language says a lot: (at the start of the group date, Sam was eyeing Sasha and then later on she gave him an up and down). Again, I don't know if it's love but I think he is the one who gives her most butterflies. Maybe in the end she won't even decide to go for that. Maybe in the end she decides to go for someone who just has the qualities she looks for, but whom she can fall in love with later. Idk how Sam thinks! Obviously.

Richie seems like a great guy: funny, caring and generous. But I hate how people are comparing the two Sasha and Richie instead of their relationship to Sam. This leads to people saying mean stuff about Sasha being possessive, jealous, talk about his family, his past relationships etc. That is just mean and unnecessary. What kind of emotionally invested person wouldn't become jealous? Even Snez did after her first date. It's about how you control those emotions is what sets you apart from the rest. Sash seems like a very lovely man, with different, but equally valuable qualities to Richie.

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Post by EmmK Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:43 pm

On that note I want to add something about Sam. In Blake's season she annoyed me a lot because she seemed very immature and still unable to deal with various emotions (therefore, she would often express them through passive aggressiveness or verbal diarrhea). This season I wasn't going to watch it precisely because of that. Then I saw the first episode after constantly reading headlines in the dailymail and I was impressed: she seemed to have mature a lot, become a lot more genuine and just learned more about herself and what she wants (rather than just ' a good role model for my brothers', which is what she used to say before a lot).

When she lost her calm with David I started doubting her, although David deserved some straight talk. She didn't give him a chance to explain himself at all and threw all these curse words, while he was just standing there unsure of how to react. Again last night, I was disappointed at Sam. I think her inability to understand Davey's personality made him feel like poop. Davey was obviously immature, cheeky and a bit of a jerk. However, he seemed incredibly genuine and really wanted to fall in love and have her love him back. Through the entire season she gave him a hard time for being himself, when she should have let him go a lot earlier. She was not interested and she should have just said that instead of blaming it on him. The worse thing I think is that she kept comparing him to her exes, which is totally unfair. Those are thoughts that you keep to yourself not project them to the other person because it's hurtful. He might have had a similar cheeky personality to her exes (although Blake was anything but cheeky), but he always told her his real intentions and the fact that he wanted to have a long term relationship. He wasn't gonna run for the hills. So yea, idk I thought Sam did a bad job of breaking up with him last night. I understand why saying those things would trigger him to roll his eyes. It's like "how many times do I have to tell you that I am here for love not ulterior motives?". Apparently, his friend died he went to the funeral and came back for the show. Come on Sam! Cut the guy some slack. Just take responsibility and admit that you don't want to be with him instead of blaming it on him.

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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:14 pm

EmmK wrote:@marysegap I am actually not confused at all. I totally think Richie is the Heather of this season= total friendzone. I just don't see her that romantically interested in Richie although they had so much fun on that date. But it's interesting to read all the comments and see everyone sleuth about Richie. Sasha all the way man. (Especially after he left the room last night after Davey left, he became so emotional) <3
I disagree. Richie is not total friendzone, he is just not her physical type and got off the bench very late in the show. I suspect Sam already chose her physical type and based on physical attraction night one and purposefully made the guys she was next interested in have their dates last before HTDs so there would be time to build on Sasha first. I think Sam was blown away by Richie and his personality.

Not every attraction is lust or friendzone.  It doesn't have to be those extremes. There's a range between all that which I think Sam made clear she is in that middle range with Richie and on the lust spectrum with Sasha building towards love (which can start with either lust or friendship).

In this case, I think it is disservice to just say "Total friendzone". Sam is saying she has feelings for Richie so that is not a friend thing. The other Sam never said he had feelings in PIs for Heather, he even questioned if there was romance. Sam actually used her tongue when SHE initiated the kiss. No tongue action with Alex.

Two different storylines and two different relationships, IMO. I just think Sam went with the one she had the most physical chemistry with if she chose Sasha like I expect.

If Richie is like anyone, I would say like Heather 2.0, Lana... perfectly compatible and best fit with some physical attraction but not the same physical chemistry as Sasha/Snez. In fact, what is also similar is that Sam Wood was videod watching his SD with Lana and Sam Frost was videoed watching her date with Richie. Only similar thing to Heather, imo, is that Richie does however benefit from not being an intruder so he is like Heather 1.0 in the sense that he is seen as a favourite and viewers don't just want him to win but want him to be bachelor.
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Post by marysegap Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:38 pm

So do we really know what she wants.question  

There is such excitement on the  relationship with Sasha, and she is physically so attracted to him :girlfan ( But sometimes those kind of feelings can be overwhelming and scare you, when they make you feel vulnarable  at the same time)
In the other hand there is Richie, which it seems to be a more friendly, conformable and safe relationship. Sorry, but I didn't see any passion in their kissing but just affection. ( Does not mean he is in the friend zone :gotcha:  

So what is that she is looking for?  Because the two men are very worthy, and if most people like Richie, It might be because he is cuter?scratch ( ... it cannot be because he is a better man than Sasha! no no By the way I personally find Sasha kind of handsome, but mostly HOT!! :girlfan giggling

Heard Sam talking about wanting her F1 to be a good roll model to her brothers… and in my opinion that could be perfectly Sasha.
A strong personality and confident character. For his 30 a very mature man, that has made very good choices in life. His rugby experience, his engineering and economy studies, a stable and most probably promising job, healthy hobbies such art and cooking. (Very unfair those people to judge the guy because of his father and brother)
And he also seems friendly, has a sense of humor, and very important has a romantic side (his gift was really sweet and romantic) And some critisaize him for showing some jealousy, but I believe that with moderation is healthy in a relationship and a good thing!! The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Page 57 2498057887  Is part of showing some passion and that you really care!

I think when compared to Richie…which also probably has a good number of qualities, they are just to different people, but both GOOD MEN and either one a good choice.
 
And even Michael seems to be a good choice if you think about it. But ( sorry for those who favor Michael )
I personally don't see much feelings from Sam ... and there is also that photo with Emily…Suspect

Well, anyway … this whole thing is getting quite EXCITING!! :shocked!: :nervous

I am so happy it's going to be a short season so I can go back to my regular life!!:gotcha: yes

handwave Thank you for sharing!


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Post by AEF Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:46 pm

On the diary (not sure when they were filmed) when Michael spoke about his sqt with Sam, it was pretty much a task breakdown of what happened, no comments about how he was feeling

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