Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #6

isittrue wrote:Bringing my post over from the episode thread:

I can't help but think there is more to the story to as to why Shawn hates Nick. Shawn brought up on ATFR that he did not hate Nick because of his past season but rather because he had heard things in the house about Nick. Shawn repeated that twice so maybe there is more to the story that we don't know about.

And, you know, there was a moment when I first started talking that I got emotional.  And she kind of grabbed my hand and told me it was "okay."  And I kind of took that as a very positive sign.  And then at that point, I was kind of all in, so to speak, in terms of saying what I had to say and pouring my heart out.

Yeah, it was very different.  And it's kind of hard to explain.  I will say that the breakup of Kaitlyn was far more -- it was far more difficult at first.  And, you know, it's funny, like, I might not be directly answering your question, so I apologize.

But people have asked me what it's like to watch the show, right?  And so, I remember watching it with Andi.  And it wasn't as difficult for me to watch it.  For example, when she was on dates with other guys and making out with other guys.  It was far more difficult this time watching it back, which I did.

And I think it was because, you know, with Andi, my only relationship with Andi was inside that realm of The Bachelor.  And with Kaitlyn, you know, I knew her before, right?  We never met in person.  We had built this relationship.  And it was just -- it was more difficult.

And so, at the same time, I think because of that, you know, trust being broken, and how things played out, and Kaitlyn taking me all the way to a proposal, I think has also and in some ways, allowed me to accept it.

I really didn't have any questions about Kaitlyn.  There weren't really any unknowns.  It was like once she made that decision, it was like, "Yeah, I'm heartbroken and sad, but you made that decision, and I need to accept it and move on."  And I think with Andi having had gone through that process, I think there was a lot of confusion.

And, you know, I hadn't had a chance to speak with her.  I really felt like I didn't know what the heck happened, and I think it was harder for me to just let go of it.  And I think I was really just anticipating After the Final Rose to get that closure from Andi.

I feel like with Kaitlyn, I didn't really need After the Final Rose to move forward.  And I think by the time yesterday happened, you know, I had already accepted her decision.  I didn't need any specific answers to get closure from her, if that makes sense. So is this -- I feel like it was just a more real experience, just because of the pre-existing relationship.

Kashathediva wrote:It could be at this point. Let's face it the ratings for the show, IMO, were from him and not the 2 clowns. The clowns had 6 minutes of an hour show together. No proposal, no highlights and no clown bloopers.
The F2 is getting a lot of post face time with interviewers. 
However, if what you are saying is that this was the plan from the inception, I think they planned for a couple scenarios and are waiting to see which will be the most lucrative.