The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - FRC - ATFR- July 27th *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

peggy0221 wrote:While Shawn got all passes for his whiny spoiled brat behavior, and I keep seeing people (here and other forum) blaming Nick for not had said no to Kait to the pre-fs sex, and he would hurt the showmance of Kaiboo, where are the big boy and big gal panties of this couple then?

I don't get the double standard whenever it comes to Nick.

timfan wrote:I do not feel sorry for nick he chose to go on the show and he became overconfident again that he was going to win the girl this time and put his family through it again and I wonder how he is going to embarrass Kaitlyn like he did andi but he will make it seem like oops I did not mean to say it or hurt Kaitlyn jmo

Seabear wrote:The good news for all Kaitlyns adoring fans is she already has her new website up and active.  They should be able to find all sorts of links to buy things she advertises, soon enough. JMO

happygolucky wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:I also think that some of them are just "hurt" because they are wrapped up in the Bachelor Bubble, but get over it 30 seconds after they get on the plane going back home or feel better after they get the Bachelor gig out of it. I do think that Nick is probably the first F2 to be truly heartbroken since...I don't know, Molly or Arie? It's been a while since I've seen genuine heartbreak and not just humiliation and shock. I don't know how Nick feels this time; I have heard stories of him moving on and I hope he keeps things in perspective (aka he only knew Kaitlyn for ~3 months and she's 100% moved on) and won't appear desperate. I think closure is overrated and when someone makes it clear to you that they don't want you and never really cared for you, the best thing to do is accept that and realize that you were never meant to be.

 

Kashathediva wrote:This season really ratcheted up (or lowered the bar) on what one would normally consider  confidence of being F1.
Without all the other little things involved and focusing only on quantifying the sex act itself, what would make one think the other person had more going into the FRC?
This goes beyond the normal self confidence/insecurities and kind of boggles the mind. All you can really come away with is :shocked!:

bleuberry wrote:I highly doubt Kaitlyn encouraged Nick to propose. Does the guy get to take responsibility for anything he does?

isittrue wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/24/bachelorette-finale-sneak-peek

relaxing wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Well, Nick was a wiling participant. He was one of the two consenting adults and from what I saw on my TV he was quite into it all and encouraged Kaitlyn's behavior (I can't even remember half of the cheesy lines he fed her to feed the so called "Kaitlyn behavior") . I'm still wondering or rather IMO, I feel since he attached so much importance to sex the last  time that he thought this early sex gave him an edge over the other contestants, too bad he forgot what show he was on.

I'm having a hard time figuring Nick out after 2 seasons where basically the same thing happens with, IMO, polar opposite women.  He seduces them, they feel some unexplainable adult passion they've never felt before, he makes them feel like a desired woman, they don't want to pursue a relationship with him.    

I hope Nick learns that seducing someone into bed is not the same as seducing them into love.  I don't know if he really is just a player spouting lines and actions he knows work and being as touchy feely as possible to get some action.  Or if he genuinely thinks physical seduction and sex is the way into a woman's heart?

If it's the latter and he actually wants to find someone to settle down with, which I think is probably true, I hope this repeat situation teaches him to slow the physical things down, build on the friendship and realize that turning someone on is a tiny piece of a very big puzzle of falling in love.  I feel bad for the guy definitely and don't think Kaitlyn or the show were fair or kind to him.  It will be so sad to see him rejected.

Norcalgal wrote:As much as I don't want Kaitlyn to let Nick go through a proposal, I keep remembering good old Emily Maynard, who had 4 proposals, the last being her knight in shining armor.  Nick will survive, too.  And he's got an entire cadre of fans, of all ages, who want him to find his happily-ever after.  Who is more attractive overall, Ed Swiderski (getting married this weekend) or Nick?  Enough said.  (And I was an Ed fan)

SueSt wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:This season really ratcheted up (or lowered the bar) on what one would normally consider  confidence of being F1.
Without all the other little things involved and focusing only on quantifying the sex act itself, what would make one think the other person had more going into the FRC?
This goes beyond the normal self confidence/insecurities and kind of boggles the mind. All you can really come away with is :shocked!:

More going it... hmmmm.  Are you talking about things the viewer can't see....