The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - #8 - Media - Tweets - IG - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Discussion

chasingpavements wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

leselihau wrote:

I was "just" coming here to post the very same thing....potential early ATFR taping?

Also...I just went and watched a whole bunch of Kaitlyn's media rounds after taping was done.  All of the media with her and Britt she's not wearing the bracelet from Shawn.  The bracelet first appears on her Mario Lopez interview which I think was filmed the day after she was chosen as THE Bachelorette and it seems to appear (as far as I can see) in every media appearance after that.  I wonder why she didn't wear it the first time out?

Is that the bracelet that she is seen wearing in the black and white photo with her friend Carson on her IG account? If so, she responded in the comments below that that was an old picture from before her season on the bachelorette.  If true, that bracelet isn't from Shawn.  

Interesting...is that the same bracelet that people in the fan forum sluethed she wore on her birthday and the Mario Lopez interview? Because that definitely was a Alex and Ani four leaf clover braclet, and I can't imagine Shawn giving her the exact same one she already had. Like I said before, I thought it was really weird that she mentioned the brand name and exact description of the bracelet in her blog, but I didn't know what it could possibly mean.

I would LOVE it if something this had all been a huge prank and they somehow got Shawn to get in bad with Kaitlyn half-naked. I don't think that's what happened, but, at this point, I don't rule anything out.

It is the same bracelet that was sleuthed in the fan thread. If indeed the photo is from before this season, than it is not the one Shawn gave her. Why would she write the brand name and description in her blog? Who knows? Why has she been screaming from the rooftops that F1 is Shawn this whole season?

Could it truly be just a diversion? That would be rich. I would definately gain a whole new level respect for the producers of the show. And for all three main players left... it truly would be shocking to say the least. And they would definately have their next bachelor picked out. No questions there. Maybe why Ben hasn't been confirmed. And why he is such good friends with both Shawn and Chris as they would technically all be "in on it" too. Talk about a dramatic ATFR...

OnePromise wrote:

Cecilia wrote:Whenever I think there is a chance she picks Nick I think of the Canada pants.

Oh I completely agree the chances are extremely small...like almost non-existent.  But, would it be that hard for a producer to suggest wearing the pants to divert attention and suggest that Shawn is F1? The pants are easier to explain than the snapchat.  And for my theory of "Kaitlyn picks Nick" to work, the snapchat would have had to be faked as well.  A little harder for Shawn to stage the snapchat than to put on a pair of maple leaf pants.  

Yeah, Celeb Dirty Laundry claimed the snapchat was a red herring that producers forced them to do but still don't think Shawn would willingly lie there if he wasn't with Kait and especially if she was with Nick. The year Des and Chris foiled RS, Brooks never gave off any impression or clues that he was F1 - he was pretty silent. We sleuthed his travels and determined he never traveled anywhere to justify a SHV. Shawn was spotted a couple of times in CA in May and we are pretty sure July 4 was a visit. Nick was definitely at home in a boat in Chicago.

LOL, just because he was in a bad mood doesn't mean it's related to Kaitlyn. He could just be grumpy because he's been flying.

I don't know if the bracelet in the Instagram pic is the same but I definitely think the one she wore during her media interviews is from Shawn. I noticed she was wearing during her HTD which was after FD and don't recall seeing it before then.

isittrue wrote:

emptysquares wrote:It looks like Shawn is back in Nashville

https://instagram.com/p/5NLqPbljpV/?taken-by=thebiggspot

And according to her, he seemed like grumpy and not like someone engaged.  Kait's two tweets were grumpy too so maybe lover's quarrel or something else.  

If he's anything like me, who loves to travel but hates airports and how terrible most in-flight experience has become, I can understand the grumpyness, after several hours of doing something that you don't enjoy.

julychild wrote:

isittrue wrote:

emptysquares wrote:It looks like Shawn is back in Nashville

https://instagram.com/p/5NLqPbljpV/?taken-by=thebiggspot

And according to her, he seemed like grumpy and not like someone engaged.  Kait's two tweets were grumpy too so maybe lover's quarrel or something else.  

If he's anything like me, who loves to travel but hates airports and how terrible most in-flight experience has become, I can understand the grumpyness,  after several hours of doing something that you don't enjoy.

Yeah, I just went through that Monday. Delayed flight, bumpy flight, crabby children, wailing babies so I guess it could be that too.

chasingpavements wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

leselihau wrote:

I was "just" coming here to post the very same thing....potential early ATFR taping?

Also...I just went and watched a whole bunch of Kaitlyn's media rounds after taping was done.  All of the media with her and Britt she's not wearing the bracelet from Shawn.  The bracelet first appears on her Mario Lopez interview which I think was filmed the day after she was chosen as THE Bachelorette and it seems to appear (as far as I can see) in every media appearance after that.  I wonder why she didn't wear it the first time out?

Is that the bracelet that she is seen wearing in the black and white photo with her friend Carson on her IG account? If so, she responded in the comments below that that was an old picture from before her season on the bachelorette.  If true, that bracelet isn't from Shawn.  

Interesting...is that the same bracelet that people in the fan forum sluethed she wore on her birthday and the Mario Lopez interview? Because that definitely was a Alex and Ani four leaf clover braclet, and I can't imagine Shawn giving her the exact same one she already had. Like I said before, I thought it was really weird that she mentioned the brand name and exact description of the bracelet in her blog, but I didn't know what it could possibly mean.

I would LOVE it if something this had all been a huge prank and they somehow got Shawn to get in bad with Kaitlyn half-naked. I don't think that's what happened, but, at this point, I don't rule anything out.

In this clip from the FD with Shawn you see Kaitlyn wearing the Four Leaf Clover bracelet. It matches the one she's seen wearing in the Mario Lopez interview dated May 20th.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/816807#i1,p0,d1

isittrue wrote:

julychild wrote:

isittrue wrote:

And according to her, he seemed like grumpy and not like someone engaged.  Kait's two tweets were grumpy too so maybe lover's quarrel or something else.  

If he's anything like me, who loves to travel but hates airports and how terrible most in-flight experience has become, I can understand the grumpyness,  after several hours of doing something that you don't enjoy.

Yeah, I just went through that Monday.  Delayed flight, bumpy flight, crabby children, wailing babies so I guess it could be that too.  

LOL.  Exact-a-tack-a-lee.  #peopleonplanes #peopleinairports

And, if I was fortunate enough to take a pic with a contestant, I would be thanking them.  

Alanna wrote:HGL!!! We must share friends!!! This is exactly what I see Kait like as well and have absolutely known several girls like this. It's why I don't think there's anything real for her with Nick, she's done this 100x times before, and it's so whatever, just fun! Not to say, it was fake, but not serious to her pretty much. And it's also why I love seeing her with Shawn. As usual, our own biases and backgrounds play into everything.

Yeah, I also had that feeling the first time when I heard Nick was going on the show (again) ... because of their SM interaction (and we didn't know at the time to what extent) ... I was cringing inside, because I thought to myself, oh boy, she wasn't that serious ... and he probably didn't get it  ...he was blinded and more alive than ever because of the energy he was getting from their time together "online", while she probably just needed some "male attention" for her own "encouragement" ... then my wishful thinking kicked in and I hoped for the fairytale, triumph story ... but with the 1st night, with that entry I kinda knew ... crossed my fingers to be wrong ... but the snapchat was a confirmation.
I don't watch the show, so I don't pay attention to Shawn (what he does aside from his interaction with Nick) and I have no idea how they look/re-act together. From my pre-show sleuthing I got the feeling he is very easy going, happy champ, who puts his family first and has a strong circle of friends, so he is set good and the girl would need to adapt to his world, which for Kaitlyn might not be an issue. More I can't say.
But I definitely don't see her with Nick, even if Shawn wouldn't be among the guys. From my protectiveness, I wouldn't want her for Nick, because he would ultimately settle without a fulfilling relationship for his type of character. That's JMO.

jojo47 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

Is that the bracelet that she is seen wearing in the black and white photo with her friend Carson on her IG account? If so, she responded in the comments below that that was an old picture from before her season on the bachelorette.  If true, that bracelet isn't from Shawn.  

Interesting...is that the same bracelet that people in the fan forum sluethed she wore on her birthday and the Mario Lopez interview? Because that definitely was a Alex and Ani four leaf clover braclet, and I can't imagine Shawn giving her the exact same one she already had. Like I said before, I thought it was really weird that she mentioned the brand name and exact description of the bracelet in her blog, but I didn't know what it could possibly mean.

I would LOVE it if something this had all been a huge prank and they somehow got Shawn to get in bad with Kaitlyn half-naked. I don't think that's what happened, but, at this point, I don't rule anything out.

In this clip from the FD with Shawn you see Kaitlyn wearing the Four Leaf Clover bracelet. It matches the one she's seen wearing in the Mario Lopez interview dated May 20th.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/816807#i1,p0,d1

Yeah, I rewatched the opening scene where she knocks on his door and she definitely is not wearing it until the clip you just posted so he probably gave it to her after they opened up the golf clothes box. Good catch!

relaxing wrote:I read the online Life & Style "Kaitlyn Chose the Wrong Guy" article.  

It's just a one pager and basically says Kaitlyn chose the wrong runner up.  It says she wanted to let Nick go and have Ben H in the F2 because she didn't see long-term with Nick well before the FD and was head over heels for her F1.  Producers pressured her into keeping Nick as F2 because of the drama and the head to head with Shawn and Ben being no drama.  Said Kaitlyn regrets putting F2 through it, still feels terrible about it and wishes she has let him go instead of doing what TPTB wanted and it's been hard to watch the rivalry for her and F1.  Also said she would have stopped Ben H from proposing because she care more about him than Nick (which I don't buy).

Take it for what you will, but that's the article claim.

Some years back I received some information from a very reliable source that the lead that season wanted to take a certain person to F2 - even had talked to that person about doing it and he was willing. The producers didn't want him as F2 - they wanted someone who would create more drama and they got the "planned" F2 to leave forcing the lead to take the person the producers wanted to F2. This was a lead who was absolutely certain who F1 would be. Things got very ugly between the producers and the lead but the producers won though not without a fight.

I don't know if the article is true or not but to me it's plausible because they have done exactly the same thing before.

I also felt all along - from the very time that I first learned that Nick would be on the show - that he would either be F1 if that was Kaitlyn's choice or he would be F2 even if that was not her choice for F2. Nick is a loose canon after filming and before the ATFR and he's a loose canon on an ATFR and there is no way I think the producers would pass up that chance for drama - nor spare anything to get drama.

bluwavz wrote:Thanks for sharing. I can believe they made her take Nick to the F2, except I also agree with you about not buying that she cared more about Ben than him. She cared about Jared even more than Ben.

I'm not sure that the part about "cared more for Ben makes sense" either but IMO bachelorette leads want to make things easy when it comes to their F2 - they prefer someone who isn't all that invested in them - this was certainly the case in the season I described above. And Kaitlyn may have known enough about Andi's season to have definitely not wanted Nick as F2 to go through an ATFR with him - but that is exactly what I think the producers want.
JMHO

I think the producers would have wanted her to bring Nick to F2 no matter what her real feelings were, but I do think that Nick was her real F2, the same way that Nick was Andi's real F2. I think she was probably 95% sure it was Shawn at that point, but wasn't ready to let him go yet because she still needed those extra days and time to be 100% there. I will have to see the finale to be certain, but that's just what my gut feeling is right now.

I also think that you're talking about Ashley/Constantine/Ben? I definitely think that Kaitlyn had way stronger feelings for Nick than Ashley did for Ben.

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