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Post by Guest Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:36 pm

chasingpavements wrote:Honestly, I don't see that. I think that their characters can sometimes be immature and silly, but the women themselves are pretty mature, intelligent, forward-thinking, and well-spoken. I don't mind a woman who is crass, sexual, and inappropriate at time (which all three are), but I've never seen them act stupid. Well, Amy Schumer's made some pretty racist and r*pe-y jokes, but I put that more on her being a new comedian than her being immature.

I think that roofie joke was inappropriate, absolutely, as I said before. My argument was not based around that joke... Just the general attitude that people have had about her reminds me of the people treat women who are a little offbeat. I think people have a problem with her just not taking herself as seriously as other Bachelorettes, which I think is unfair.

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Post by AllAboutLove Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:36 pm

From that EW video Kaitlyn says that her biggest concern for sure with Shawn is whether his jealousy issues are just because of the show or more than that...

Seems like Kaitlyn's biggest concern about Shawn was/is? the same as many others.

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Post by mindless Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:37 pm

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algold29 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/13/bachelorette-kaitlyn-thinks-nick-has-it-all

Trying to mislead us into believing she is leaning towards Nick as her F1 and not Shawn.  The article says..."In this exclusive clip from Monday’s installment of the reality dating competition, Kaitlyn talks with host Chris Harrison about Shawn’s jealous ways, and how Nick seems to have something the other guys don’t – her unabashed admiration!"

I can't see Kaitlyn feeling that way about Nick then picking Shawn, her unabashed admiration.  Maybe she just admires him for giving it a shot and coming on the show 3-4 weeks into production.
Nothing wrong with Kaitlyn while on the show liking or admiring or falling in love with Nick.

Imho, knowing who the F1 is can cloud one's ability to acknowledge that this can happen: the lead can have strong feelings for her F2 and maybe even have been legitimately confused.

Because this is Kait, I honestly see this as being the case since she lives in the moment.

Not everything has to be cut or dry to make the lead/F1 relationship more ideal and neither does K's feelings at that time need to be discounted or seen as taking away from her current relationship post-show with her F1. Jmo

ITA. I always hate when the F2 relationship is totally discounted. It's easy to think it was always F1 while knowing who the F1 is, but that doesn't mean the lead knew that at the time. It's a confusing situation and I think most leads have been conflicted, even the ones who later claim that it was cut and dry due to selective memory. And that's how this process works. The lead is supposed to explore several relationships at the same time to determine which one they want to continue post-show. It's not a show about dating one person seriously and stringing along a bunch of clueless idiots, though obviously it sometimes turns into that. Yeah, Kaitlyn told Shawn he's the one, but that was after they'd just had a great date and were probably full of alcohol/emotion after the RC and after talking without cameras all night. Once she sobered up, changed continents and went on a date with Nick she seemed to forget all about that, so I can't take it too seriously. Now she keeps saying she regrets telling him that. It's not cut and dry at all, even if Shawn is really important to her. JMO.
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Post by Nibbles22 Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:40 pm

Can I just say, I'll be THRILLED when I never hear another word about Kaitlyn Bristowe. Oh, and The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - #8 - Media - Tweets - IG - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Discussion - Page 35 3806527698 Hugesmile
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Post by Luvstruck Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:00 pm

Did anyone else notice on Kaitlyn's twitter she has a pic from Disneyland recently. Wonder why she just didn't wait a couple of more weeks until AFTR & take Shawn with her? Seems like it would be more fun with your new fiance.

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Post by agentcurls Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:15 pm

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chasingpavements wrote:Honestly, I don't see that. I think that their characters can sometimes be immature and silly, but the women themselves are pretty mature, intelligent, forward-thinking, and well-spoken. I don't mind a woman who is crass, sexual, and inappropriate at time (which all three are), but I've never seen them act stupid. Well, Amy Schumer's made some pretty racist and r*pe-y jokes, but I put that more on her being a new comedian than her being immature.

I think that roofie joke was inappropriate, absolutely, as I said before. My argument was not based around that joke... Just the general attitude that people have had about her reminds me of the people treat women who are a little offbeat. I think people have a problem with her just not taking herself as seriously as other Bachelorettes, which I think is unfair.

The roofie joke was in poor taste I have to say.
I do think she is doing everything possible to keep things in her life nice and light since she is dealing with quite a bit of darkness out in public. She is always talking about how nice people are to her on Periscope and I think she has gotten perhaps a little too comfortable about what she says/does on there.
I don't feel comfortable judging someone that has undergone such scrutiny and been put through this experience. Maybe she's mot handling as well as some others, but I have to give her credit for being herself and owning it.


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Post by isittrue Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:18 pm

Luvstruck wrote:Did anyone else notice on Kaitlyn's twitter she has a pic from Disneyland recently. Wonder why she just didn't wait a couple of more weeks until AFTR & take Shawn with her? Seems like it would be more fun with your new fiance.

Every year the bachelorette takes a solo trip to Disneyland it's through Abc/Disney I believe. The last few Ettes have gone alone

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Post by AllAboutLove Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:30 pm

relaxing wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
algold29 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/13/bachelorette-kaitlyn-thinks-nick-has-it-all

Trying to mislead us into believing she is leaning towards Nick as her F1 and not Shawn.  The article says..."In this exclusive clip from Monday’s installment of the reality dating competition, Kaitlyn talks with host Chris Harrison about Shawn’s jealous ways, and how Nick seems to have something the other guys don’t – her unabashed admiration!"

I can't see Kaitlyn feeling that way about Nick then picking Shawn, her unabashed admiration.  Maybe she just admires him for giving it a shot and coming on the show 3-4 weeks into production.
Nothing wrong with Kaitlyn while on the show liking or admiring or falling in love with Nick.

Imho, knowing who the F1 is can cloud one's ability to acknowledge that this can happen: the lead can have strong feelings for her F2 and maybe even have been legitimately confused.

Because this is Kait, I honestly see this as being the case since she lives in the moment.

Not everything has to be cut or dry to make the lead/F1 relationship more ideal and neither does K's feelings at that time need to be discounted or seen as taking away from her current relationship post-show with her F1. Jmo

I agree totally - she's into Nick without a doubt and there's a glint in her eye when she talks about him.  She can't hold back a grin.  That's just a subconscious reaction she has to him as a person and how she feels with him.  I really do wonder if the sex issue hadn't happened and Nick and Shawn progressed at the same speed with Kaitlyn, got physical at the same stage of the process etc what would have happened.  I like her and Shawn tog. a lot but I can totally see how into Nick she was and I really liked them together on their dates.  Sometimes I wonder why she didn't pick him.  The finale will be interesting for sure.
In that EW video Kaitlyn was grinning away shyly about Nick.
Was actually very sweet to watch and even CH said, "look at you!".
Wonder if he helped steer her away from Nick b/c I don't think he cares much for him at all (not that K didn't choose on her own but CH sometimes gets involved when he shouldn't and tries to play God). jmho
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Post by SueSt Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:04 pm

Bet2Win wrote:I think TPTB were hoping for a Jillian 2 season in casting Kait.  Jillian was a bit more real and crass than the other female leads, but she was and still is adored.  Once they realized Kait was not going to get the same adoration Jillian received, they threw her under the bus for drama and ratings.  Not hard to do with Kait, she seems to lie in the road waiting for the bus.

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Post by SueSt Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:14 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
relaxing wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
Nothing wrong with Kaitlyn while on the show liking or admiring or falling in love with Nick.

Imho, knowing who the F1 is can cloud one's ability to acknowledge that this can happen: the lead can have strong feelings for her F2 and maybe even have been legitimately confused.

Because this is Kait, I honestly see this as being the case since she lives in the moment.

Not everything has to be cut or dry to make the lead/F1 relationship more ideal and neither does K's feelings at that time need to be discounted or seen as taking away from her current relationship post-show with her F1. Jmo

I agree totally - she's into Nick without a doubt and there's a glint in her eye when she talks about him.  She can't hold back a grin.  That's just a subconscious reaction she has to him as a person and how she feels with him.  I really do wonder if the sex issue hadn't happened and Nick and Shawn progressed at the same speed with Kaitlyn, got physical at the same stage of the process etc what would have happened.  I like her and Shawn tog. a lot but I can totally see how into Nick she was and I really liked them together on their dates.  Sometimes I wonder why she didn't pick him.  The finale will be interesting for sure.
In that EW video Kaitlyn was grinning away shyly about Nick.
Was actually very sweet to watch and even CH said, "look at you!".
Wonder if he helped steer her away from Nick b/c I don't think he cares much for him at all (not that K didn't choose on her own but CH sometimes gets involved when he shouldn't and tries to play God). jmho
I really felt CH was a big Nick supporter last season.
Of course I haven't yet watched this season, but has something changed to make you think CH doesn't care for Nick?
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Post by Guest Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:16 pm

Eh, I don't take anything CH says seriously. I don't even think he cares about any of these people. He just speaks out of both sides of his mouth and will defend or attack contestants when it's most convenient and dramatic to do so.

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Post by mindless Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:23 pm

I think he turned on Nick after what happened at ATFR. Must be because of his strange crush on the previous lead. But he's made sure to point out Nick's untrustworthiness or whatever all throughout this season. I kind of wanna smack that "knowing" smirk off his annoying liar face.
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