The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Ladybug82 wrote:At this point, all 3 need a time out and a cold shower.

And some blood work and swabbing.

whit90 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

whit90 wrote:I do not understand that when Nick says something about Shawn it not ok but Shawn says more negative things about Nick is alright.

Because Kaitlyn wants Shawn and not Nick.  Shawn has told her she was being stupid and it is okay.  Nick was pretty clueless IMO to not read the signs from Kaitlyn that she wanted Shawn not him.  Accusing him of telling the other men about sex?  No trust there.  Getting annoyed when Nick tells her about Shawn (which was pretty stupid of Nick IMO), Nick's fault not Shawn.  Nick she is showing you in everyway she can that she is not going to pick you.  Nick, IMO, is caught up in the fantasy he has of Kaitlyn and doesn't see the real Kaitlyn.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you and mainly I was talking about the post they made. I see the opposite I do not see her showing him that he is not the one why would she take that Risk with Shawn if she really wasn't feeling it at that time.

No worries though I am so glad Nick did not end up with her he deserves someone much better. To me she is the worst ette to ever be on this show and has nothing to due with me being a Nick Fan.

I really thought that the questioning and accusing him of telling the other guys that they had sex, spoke volumes.  Her getting annoyed when he told her about Shawn showed that she is really into Shawn.  Nick even did his uncomfortable mumbling again during their conversation.  He always did that with Andi when he could tell that she wasn't as into him as he was into her.  I think Nick's subconscious was telling him Kaitlyn did not really want him, but he is seeing her as he wants to see her instead of the reality.

I feel bad for Nick. I think he went because he really likes Kaitlyn, but the truth is that Kaitlyn doesn't care about him at all.  He is just there to make her feel better about herself.

[quote=mmsupi] Can anyone see that that Nick is a master manipulator?? Anyone who has had experience with a narcissist can spot one a mile away and for sure Nick is your quintessential narcissist!! No doubt and it is sad that we empathetic souls (including me) get sucked in to such crap.
These manipulators are only out for themselves and it's only about their own personal gain ...in the beginning they suck you in by wearing a mask and mirroring your qualities. They are too good to be true...your soul mate, they are empathetic and loving...you are their entire world..they suck you in with all of this false self....
and then the mask comes off and they expose their true self....UGLY!!! Eventually their true self is revealed...So Run as fast as you can Kaitlyn (hopefully you already saw through the lies)!! [/quote]

I grew up with a narcissist, my mother has been diagnosed as a narcissist, so I can tell you that with experience with a narcissist that it is not what I see when I see Nick.  I see Shawn as just as manipulative as Nick.  JMO.

Soooo. I take it based on that preview from the next show, Shawn's overnight is gonna be the last one shown? Fancy that.

Ladybug82 wrote:At this point, all 3 need a time out and a cold shower.

Yeah, in the same stall in the same igloo. Since Shawn and Nick are Eskimo Bros. :cutesmile!:

Kait just fav'd the pic of her telling Shawn that she'll never explore another relationship again can this woman do anything right?! It's a secret, Kait!!

WORST. SEASON. EVER. Next...

mmsupi wrote:Can anyone see that that Nick is a master manipulator?? Anyone who has had experience with a narcissist can spot one a mile away and for sure Nick is your quintessential narcissist!!  No doubt and it is sad that we empathetic souls (including me) get sucked in to such crap.
These manipulators are only out for themselves and it's only about their own personal gain ...in the beginning they suck you in by wearing a mask and mirroring your qualities.  They are too good to be true...your soul mate, they are empathetic and loving...you are their entire world..they suck you in with all of this false self....
and then the mask comes off and they expose their true self....UGLY!!!  Eventually their true self is revealed...So Run as fast as you can Kaitlyn (hopefully you already saw through the lies)!!  

Deleted...because I got edited. I already said what I needed to, anyway.

Put up, or...

Every season is the Worst. Season. Evah.

I am actually enjoying this season more than the last Ette's, whoever that was. . . .
Oh yeah, Andi!

Trainwreck = More memorable

I do not believe that Shawn fans are necessarily going to be happy with him being F1.  Most believe he should have left the show.

rosesrREd wrote:I do not believe that Shawn fans are necessarily going to be happy with him being F1.  Most believe he should have left the show.

I don't know whose mother I would be less happy to be--the "winner" from season 10 or the "winner" from season 11.  At least I would not be hosting a viewing for the ATFR for my church group and charity.  :shocked!:

Just finished watching... I fast forwarded through a LOT

Some thoughts

- Jared is a CLASS act I would prefer him over Ben as the Bachelor and after BIP if his heart broken story line continues he could have a shot
- Ben also class act but I find him a tad boring...nothing wrong with that I just don't think he can hold his own as the Bachelor

This entire season has become the pissing match between Nick and Shawn.

This episode actually confused me because I felt like in the scenes where she told Shawn and at the RC it was almost like she was challenging him to leave. She always seems so down and low and emotional and drama with Shawn.

Where as with Nick I felt like we FINALLY got to see the Kaitlyn that people wanted on our screens. She was light and funny and just seemed so herself on their date.

I did not like that Nick threw Shawn under the bus but I also agree that Shawn bragging about something like that is gross... just not something for Nick to tell Kaitlyn about.

The yelling match at the end was ridiculous, but I probably would yell back if someone came to my room and starting questioning my intentions who openly admits they did not try to get to know me. And accuse me of no one liking me over 2 seasons.

Overall this season has been exhausting and not at all enjoyable to watch.

{quote stuckinsc} I grew up with a narcissist, my mother has been diagnosed as a narcissist, so I can tell you that with experience with a narcissist that it is not what I see when I see Nick. I see Shawn as just as manipulative as Nick. JMO.

stuckinsc, I am very sorry to hear that...it is an awful awful existence that no one should go through. I respect your opinion however there are significant differences in the dynamics of being a victim of a narcissistic significant other vs child...both just as damaging and both just as devastating.