The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Sex generally messes up the entire process, JMOAA, not that I would know.

OnePromise wrote:It really makes me wonder how her journey would have been different if she had not engaged in sex at this early stage.  Would she still have chosen Shawn?  IMO her feelings for Nick became overshadowed by the pre-FS sex and she was never able to fully explore them after her fears about what Shawn would think about the situation dominated her thought process.  It likely was all that she thought about from that point on.  Does that mean that her fear about telling Shawn was her indicator that her relationship with him was the most important one?  Or could it have been that she was most fearful about telling him because he was so invested in her and she hated to think about hurting him?  IMO, this fear led her to push Nick out of her mind and not consider their relationship fully.  IMO, she sold herself (and Nick) short.

I agree - I think that the producers knew that once Kaitlyn slept with Nick, they had the thing they needed to taunt her on a daily basis to the point of breakdown. I think that's the reason that Kaitlyn was so worried that Nick would tell Shawn and the other guys. When talking to Nick at the cocktail party, she even said something like "some of the other guys have told me", when they hadn't! I bet that the producers were just whispering in her ear, and that made her have all these trust issues with Nick. If she had those trust issues with him prior to the show, she wouldn't have sexted with him, knowing that those pictures could get out.

She might/probably would have ended up with Shawn anyways, but it is definitely a shame that the sex "scandal" ended up seemingly being her entire focus from mid-way through filming.

Maybe after K reveals the sex, it will enable her to explore her other relationships more fully. Just hoping she and Shawn are truly happy and she did indeed explore her relationship with Nick and decided Shawn was still The One per her People blog. I just want a drama free ATFR please.

IA that sex messes everything up but I think she would have ended up with Shawn anyway. She is just way too attracted to the manly man type that fixes stuff and brings her a blanket when she's cold to have ended up with a buddy she flirts and jokes around with imo. It just would have been an easier/less stressful journey I think.

Alanna wrote:IA that sex messes everything up but I think she would have ended up with Shawn anyway. She is just way too attracted to the manly man type that fixes stuff and brings her a blanket when she's cold to have ended up with a buddy she flirts and jokes around with imo. It just would have been an easier/less stressful journey I think.

Yeah I can't really see her with Nick either.

For all of her modern woman, worldly ways, she is attracted more to the Southern, old-school manners and upbringing type man. This is why she liked Chris and convinced herself that she was in love with him. She also keeps saying that she wants to live in the country. The casting for this season also shows that the men were largely selected from this demographic. The country bred "gentleman" types were all casted for Kaitlyn...she was going to be the lead, anyway.

Her past relationships would show that her "type" have evolved over time, or maybe she circled back to her true roots, who knows?!

It seems like most of the relationships in this franchise that last are leads that pick their F1 against what their usual type is. It also seems like most lasting relationships are based on a slow-burn, friendship that evolves into love (Sean/Cat, Des/Chris, Ashley/JP) and couples that fall in love on night one don't last (Brad/Emily, Ali/Roberto, Josh/Andi, etc).

I guess that's why I personally would have preferred Nick/Kaitlyn, although I honestly don't think that either relationship would have lasted more than a couple of months.

Well much as I like S/K as a couple, the odds for them lasting are slim like everyone else that comes off this show. I know RS does not give them long which I am curious as to what he is basing it off of : personal opinion or other info ? I remain hopeful but also very prepared for everything. Guess I will enjoy them while I can .

I haven't said much but just throwing it in, that I think Kaitlyn was drunk, very drunk and that is how sleeping with Nick happened so early. Wasn't it whiskey they were drinking- that's my 2 cents.

isittrue wrote:Well much as I like S/K as a couple, the odds for them lasting are slim like everyone else that comes off this show.  I know RS does not give them long which I am curious as to what he is basing it off of :  personal opinion or other info ? I remain hopeful but also very prepared for everything. Guess I will enjoy them while I can .

RS knows nothing and any "predictions" he makes has to do with the show's awful track record.... period.

But, unfortunately you are correct that most couples do not make it post show. TWT as always.

isittrue wrote:Well much as I like S/K as a couple, the odds for them lasting are slim like everyone else that comes off this show.  I know RS does not give them long which I am curious as to what he is basing it off of :  personal opinion or other info ? I remain hopeful but also very prepared for everything. Guess I will enjoy them while I can .

I think he does have info on certain couples, like he did for Andi/Josh and Whitney/Chris, but I think this one is just personal opinion. He talked about the fact that he likes Kaitlyn, feels like she doesn't deserve all the sl*t-shaming, but recently unfollowed her on most social media because she acts really immature and just doesn't seem like a 30-y/o woman. I agree with him on that, as I always forget she's older than all of her top 6 guys, by at least 2 years, except Nick. It's hard to see her getting married anytime soon, but who knows? I do think that their odds of making it are probably better than the last three couples in this franchise, but I have to see them more IRL (after show interviews and such) to form a real opinion.

JMHO but I can't see her married to anyone at this stage in her life. She is still a free-spirit type of person and wants to have her fun. Don't think she and Shawn will last more than a couple of months.