Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #5

chasingpavements wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

My opinion - because he's just the "lust" guy this season and not a fully-formed "character" like Shawn is. He's supposed to be the mistake that  changed the course of this season, and that's all the show wants him to be. If we hear him talking about how much the sex meant to him and how it heightened his emotional connection to Kaitlyn, it would ruin the narrative that TPTB are trying to create.  

It will be interesting, because it does say in the spoilers that one of the men on the group date at the Killarney National Park tells Kaitlyn he loves her. Can't be Joe (since he leaves and obviously is not in love with her) and I can't see it being Shawn (since I'm guessing he tells her he's in love with her during the confrontation in her hotel room, where he asks "Are you in love with me"). So, I'm thinking that's Nick, and it will be interesting to see how they show it and how Kaitlyn reacts.

What makes you think Nick though? She'll probably give S a 1/1 date as well as Jared leaving Chris, Joe, Nick and Ben H on the group date? Mabye Chris tell K he is in love with her and she has to tell him she doesn't feel the same which leads to his break down in the previews.

RS actually spoiled that the three men on the National Park group date are Nick, Shawn, and Joe and that seems to match up from what I'm seeing in screencaps (Nick and Shawn sitting on a bench together). RS said that Chris, Ben H, and Jared get the 1-on-1. He definitely right about Jared and Chris (since we've already seen the promos and screencaps), so I assume he's right about Ben too.

The episode preview ( TVguide's) specifically said it was one of the men on the Killarney National Park group date.

This is how I think it goes:

6/29
2-on-1 with JJ/Joe
cocktail party (6 men left, according to ABC Press release) ---> Nick, Shawn, Ben H, Jared, Chris, Joe
1-on-1 with Jared, where they drive countryside and kiss on Blarney Stone
1-on-1 with Chris, helicopter ride landing near Cliffs of Moher (eliminated) --> 5 guys left

7/6
1-on-1 with Ben H, on Innisfallen Island
group date with Joe, Nick, and Shawn to Killarney National Park --> Joe elimated

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason that Shawn gets angry at Kaitlyn the second time is because he doesn't get a 1-on-1 and has to go on a group date with Nick.

OnePromise wrote:

happygolucky wrote:Like GA, relieved I don't have to watch. Also like Kasha wrote, Nick is constantly active on SM, practically we can keep his itinerary in check (maybe with a bit of a guess) and he indeed never "left incognito" for a few days for any chance of SHV, while Shawn is SM silent most of the time, wasn't spotted much, isn't restrained to one place because of his job, so he is more likely able to travel undetected.

Then again Nick was allowed to be on SM during the show, so why not at a SHV too?  

chasingpavements wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

My opinion - because he's just the "lust" guy this season and not a fully-formed "character" like Shawn is. He's supposed to be the mistake that  changed the course of this season, and that's all the show wants him to be. If we hear him talking about how much the sex meant to him and how it heightened his emotional connection to Kaitlyn, it would ruin the narrative that TPTB are trying to create.  

It will be interesting, because it does say in the spoilers that one of the men on the group date at the Killarney National Park tells Kaitlyn he loves her. Can't be Joe (since he leaves and obviously is not in love with her) and I can't see it being Shawn (since I'm guessing he tells her he's in love with her during the confrontation in her hotel room, where he asks "Are you in love with me"). So, I'm thinking that's Nick, and it will be interesting to see how they show it and how Kaitlyn reacts.

What makes you think Nick though? She'll probably give S a 1/1 date as well as Jared leaving Chris, Joe, Nick and Ben H on the group date? Mabye Chris tell K he is in love with her and she has to tell him she doesn't feel the same which leads to his break down in the previews.

RS actually spoiled that the three men on the National Park group date are Nick, Shawn, and Joe and that seems to match up from what I'm seeing in screencaps (Nick and Shawn sitting on a bench together). RS said that Chris, Ben H, and Jared get the 1-on-1. He definitely right about Jared and Chris (since we've already seen the promos and screencaps), so I assume he's right about Ben too.

The episode preview ( TVguide's) specifically said it was one of the men on the Killarney National Park group date.

This is how I think it goes:

6/29
2-on-1 with JJ/Joe
cocktail party (6 men left, according to ABC Press release) ---> Nick, Shawn, Ben H, Jared, Chris, Joe
1-on-1 with Jared, where they drive countryside and kiss on Blarney Stone
1-on-1 with Chris, helicopter ride landing near Cliffs of Moher (eliminated) --> 5 guys left

7/6
1-on-1 with Ben H, on Innisfallen Island
group date with Joe, Nick, and Shawn to Killarney National Park --> Joe elimated

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason that Shawn gets angry at Kaitlyn the second time is because he doesn't get a 1-on-1 and has to go on a group date with Nick.

GuardianAngel wrote:Re Shawn and the possibility of SCgatefoiler.

IMO there is no way in the world Shawn is going to get in bed, without a shirt on, with Kaitlyn, to foiler a season for Nick's benefit.

happydays wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Re Shawn and the possibility of SCgatefoiler.

IMO there is no way in the world Shawn is going to get in bed, without a shirt on, with Kaitlyn, to foiler a season for Nick's benefit.

^^This is what I cannot get past.
Everything else, I can see it as a foiler possibility, but this really has put all my Kanick hopes dead in the water.

It's for the best I think though. I don't see Kanick surviving in the long-term -- they are just worlds apart in many aspects.

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

What makes you think Nick though? She'll probably give S a 1/1 date as well as Jared leaving Chris, Joe, Nick and Ben H on the group date? Mabye Chris tell K he is in love with her and she has to tell him she doesn't feel the same which leads to his break down in the previews.

RS actually spoiled that the three men on the National Park group date are Nick, Shawn, and Joe and that seems to match up from what I'm seeing in screencaps (Nick and Shawn sitting on a bench together). RS said that Chris, Ben H, and Jared get the 1-on-1. He definitely right about Jared and Chris (since we've already seen the promos and screencaps), so I assume he's right about Ben too.

The episode preview ( TVguide's) specifically said it was one of the men on the Killarney National Park group date.

This is how I think it goes:

6/29
2-on-1 with JJ/Joe
cocktail party (6 men left, according to ABC Press release) ---> Nick, Shawn, Ben H, Jared, Chris, Joe
1-on-1 with Jared, where they drive countryside and kiss on Blarney Stone
1-on-1 with Chris, helicopter ride landing near Cliffs of Moher (eliminated) --> 5 guys left

7/6
1-on-1 with Ben H, on Innisfallen Island
group date with Joe, Nick, and Shawn to Killarney National Park --> Joe elimated

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason that Shawn gets angry at Kaitlyn the second time is because he doesn't get a 1-on-1 and has to go on a group date with Nick.

Oh ok I see. I haven't been keeping up that well recently with updated RS spoilers so your account then makes the most sense for sure. So Shawn gets angry at K a second time? Kaitlyn sure like to rile Shawn up huh, putting him on the group date instead of 1/1 and then make it with Nick on the same date. I assume she gives him the GDR to ease his jealous mind as well if there is a rose on that date.....I am sure Nick just has a swell time as well.

Alanna wrote:

happydays wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Re Shawn and the possibility of SCgatefoiler.

IMO there is no way in the world Shawn is going to get in bed, without a shirt on, with Kaitlyn, to foiler a season for Nick's benefit.

^^This is what I cannot get past.
Everything else, I can see it as a foiler possibility, but this really has put all my Kanick hopes dead in the water.

It's for the best I think though. I don't see Kanick surviving in the long-term -- they are just worlds apart in many aspects.

I'm really vividly imagining how it would go and it is just cracking me up. Shawn telling Kait to close her eyes as he takes off his shirt, her cringing when putting her head on his chest because she's engaged to another dude, etc., etc., etc....I have an overactive imagination

GuardianAngel wrote:Re Shawn and the possibility of SCgatefoiler.

IMO there is no way in the world Shawn is going to get in bed, without a shirt on, with Kaitlyn, to foiler a season for Nick's benefit.

happydays wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Re Shawn and the possibility of SCgatefoiler.

IMO there is no way in the world Shawn is going to get in bed, without a shirt on, with Kaitlyn, to foiler a season for Nick's benefit.

^^This is what I cannot get past.
Everything else, I can see it as a foiler possibility, but this really has put all my Kanick hopes dead in the water.

It's for the best I think though. I don't see Kanick surviving in the long-term -- they are just worlds apart in many aspects.