The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 7 Jun 29th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Alcohol isn't an excuse imo

They are all adults, they know how to drink responsibly and need to own up to their own behaviours

stuckinsc wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Is it worth it? How to answer that.
I am just watching to watch at this point and because of this forum.
It is only this forum that makes anything about this season worth it, imo.

  It's ok. I have done that seasons. 
Usually when the show is on, I have to multitask. 
Tonight with all the men whining. I felt like grabbing them by their scruff right through the screen and telling them to put some big boy boxers on because their underoos were cutting off all circulation. :Furious:

Kasha, these boys are not in boxers, they are wearing really tight little girl panties.  Over them all.

It's like watching kids in kindergarten or worse.

Those child actors were more grown up than these big babies. What a mess.

It's a beautiful mess (as J. Mraz would say) I am enjoying the show and happy Kaitlyn chose someone. She seems giddy now and can't wait to see them at the ATFR.

Alanna wrote: no redeeming necessary for Shawn, the only folks who are commenting on red flags are here. I just took a look at the comments he's getting and women are obsessed with him. He can apparently do no wrong to the majority of fans outside this board. Just my observations, of course, everyone's opinions are valid.

On Twitter he was getting a ton of comments by the blogger/past contestant/magazine tweeters about his behavior and that he is acting like he is the bachelor or never been on this show (when I get the time I will roundup all those tweets). Even people tweeting that if he didn't look like Ryan Gosling they wouldn't give him a pass. I rest my case. He is fine because of who he looks like more than who he is. jmo

Kashathediva wrote:It doesn't matter what any fan or forum think about Shawn, Kaitlin or Nick. These people shouldn't and probably don't care a fig about this kind of stuff. There is no need for redemption, imo. 
As far as the relationship lasting, my magic 8 balls says uphill battle. Clouds in my coffee. Outlook not good. 
Rs's magic 8 ball...Deposit another quarter. Call Kasha's 8 ball. Tilt.

If I know anything about reality-TV contestants, it's that they care a great deal about what people think. They wouldn't spend 24 hours attached to their phones, IG-ing, tweeting, snapchatting, and Periscoping every remotely interesting thing they did or thought if they didn't. And, they certainly wouldn't be searching Twitter all day for mentions long trying to think of witty comebacks to the negative tweets.

Kashathediva wrote:It doesn't matter what any fan or forum think about Shawn, Kaitlin or Nick. These people shouldn't and probably don't care a fig about this kind of stuff. There is no need for redemption, imo. 
As far as the relationship lasting, my magic 8 balls says uphill battle. Clouds in my coffee. Outlook not good. 
Rs's magic 8 ball...Deposit another quarter. Call Kasha's 8 ball. Tilt.

Great post!  They most certainly don't give a "fig."  Yes to the uphill battle.  Still can't wait to see them all interact at the ATFR.  ;)

Shawn is getting lots of loveee on SM. But, I am sure he is hangin' with cupcake and could care less.

BlackHalo wrote:IMO If Shawn didn't look the way he looked, no one would be praising him. Amazing how good looks let you off the hook for problematic behavior.

Maybe I am the odd one out, be he is less attractive than Cupcake, Jared or Ben H to me and no more attractive than Nick. His nose is too big and at this point his attitude sucks too much, any attractiveness disappears as soon as he opens his mouth. Have you ever heard the phrase, "Please stop talking, you are ruining the pretty"? Shawn has destroyed any pretty that was there.

happydays wrote:Alcohol isn't an excuse imo

They are all adults, they know how to drink responsibly and need to own up to their own behaviours

Seriously, no one forces alcohol down your throat. People criticized the heck out of JPG, but he barely drank on his season, so no it is not mandatory.

Kashathediva wrote:As far as the relationship lasting, my magic 8 balls says uphill battle. Clouds in my coffee. Outlook not good. 
Rs's magic 8 ball...Deposit another quarter. Call Kasha's 8 ball. Tilt.

This is just too good. Thanks for the laughs. What a silly show this is. :Nod:

happydays wrote:Alcohol isn't an excuse imo

They are all adults, they know how to drink responsibly and need to own up to their own behaviours

Oh, it's obviously not an excuse, and they should all be smart enough to stop drinking. That said, that's what I think ends up causing a lot of the drama on this show (or at least on this particular season). That's why I usually like HTD week. It gives people time to unwind, get away from each other, get out of the "bubble"-y setting. IMO, Kaitlyn should have just stuck to the traditional HTD route, because I think it would've been more relaxing for her and given more clarity.

Unless, of course, that TPTB set up the 6-to-3 and FD-before-HTD thing in advance and then just figured out a way to sell Kaitlyn on it (or she didn't have a choice). Which is probably what actually went down.

I don't think there is going to happy ending, regardless of how Kaitlyn seems on the media rounds, it's all for show, IMO.

BlackHalo wrote:IMO If Shawn didn't look the way he looked, no one would be praising him. Amazing how good looks let you off the hook for problematic behavior.

I definitely think that's true. I've mentioned a couple of times that he's basically the female Britt (FIR, first kiss, questions the lead about his/her motives, gets mad at the lead for not giving him/her validation with a GDR, threatens to leave). Britt was hated, yet people (mostly female) LOVE Shawn. I also think that gender expectations play a role - no one likes to admit it, but a lot of women do find that possessive, jealous, intense character in men sexy. Whereas a women that's possessive, jealous, and intense is crazy.

I did see a bunch of people on Twitter calling Shawn a p*ssy and a "woman" for being all dramatic and paranoid and almost crying, so I don't think that he's universally loved. I just think that, like the Britt fans, his fans are very vocal.

rosesrREd wrote:I don't think there is going to happy ending, regardless of how Kaitlyn seems on the media rounds, it's all for show, IMO.

Heck, honestly, with this train wreck and the negative attention to her, she could just be giddy that all the stuff it out and getting over and she can move on with her life.

I do think she is with Shawn, but since I find them both incredibly unlikeable at this point, I say good, enjoy each other and that way the rest of the world is safe from them. Felt the same way about the happy couple out of the last bachelorette.