Re: Finale and After the Final Rose Spoilers - Bachelorette 7 - Thread #1

[cfck2222]

I'm about to make an incredibly cynical comment... I wondered last night if there was some sort of bonus structure for the lead. It really felt like Ashley was trying to get BOTH Ben and JP to tell her that that they loved her. Is it possible that she would get more if they both proposed?

I KNOW that TPTB push the leads strongly to lead people on and I don't know if it would make me feel any better if there was actually a monetary piece of persuasion. I just didn't think that Ash would freeze to the point that she would actively (actually passively, I guess) hurt another person. It makes me sad, but then it always does.

I know I feel disappointed too though i don't judge her or accuse her for it... it's too monumental for her to just go in and want to wing it. Ash is a dancer ...she knows about rehearsals...she's a dentist...she knows about memorizing crazy amounts of biological information --- I would have expected she is composed, intelligent and - I truly felt - compassionate enough to have rehearsed what she would do in this scenario especially given how monumental it is -- especially for Ben! Ash blundered only once with rejections in my eyes and that was with how cold she was with Ames but she did well with the others so this is surprising and sad

I truly respected Ali for how she acted with CL and was very proud of her. And most of all I held Ashley in the same standards and I'm am sad that it's disappointing like this.... Either way tho...time will HEAL and Ben will be OK. It's just -- it was totally avoidable!

AMEN emusha! I respect Ali as well. I just want to "toot" her horn for a second for not allowing Chris L to get all dressed up, picking out a ring, etc. There was no wasted proposal. What do we have here? He proposed beautifully to Peyton. Chris L, Roberto, Ali & Peyton will always be friends. Ash/JP & Ben will be friends again one day. I just know it! :Nod:

I'm going to be a little cynical here. Ali may have been the 1st to tell TPTB she wanted to end things with her F2 before the FRC and LCD and she got her way. But she got her way because the producers decided it would make a good story that season. So Ali deserves credit but she got lucky the producers agreed.

Does anybody here think Ashley didn't want to do the same thing? I think we've seen she was going through the motions with the other guys and one of the reasons she hasn't been that great a lead is she doesn't hide her feelings well. But I don't think the producers allowed her to end things with Ben F early. I think they forced her to go through with the FRC. They needed Ben F around for the family drama

emusha's right Ashley should've prepared herself for the scenario where Ben F proposed. Maybe she did and she froze. Maybe the producers got into her head and she was sure she and Ben F were on the same page about this not working out. That wouldn't be an excuse but at least it would make things a little more understandable. Or maybe there's more going on here. My cynical side says the producers wanted something really awkward for their own purposes, maybe to really set Ben F up to possibly be the next Bachelor.

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[Shelby]

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[gurlbrit]

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[Cecilia]

I'd say it's equal to Reid getting down on one knee to Jillian, as he was led to believe by TPTB that once he said ILY, she would accept. And Jason got down on one knee too. So, I kindly ask that y'all don't make Ashley some type of evil villain..it's just the nature of the beast for this show. Poor Ashley it almost ruined her magical day with JP, as it really upset her that Ben proposed. Let's give everyone a break, please. TPTB sensing that Ben is naive, maybe told him to get down on his knee and propose as soon as he got to the podium and maybe they are the real evil ones and not Ashely.

I really have to wonder how strong that Bachelor brainwash is, because I honestly saw such a strong friendship vibe between Ben and Ashley, with not a lot of passionate kissing going on, if any, and can't imagine a modern (as opposed to from the Victorian era) guy like Ben really thinking that the relationship was already at the stage appropriate for a marriage proposal. I do suspect a lot of producer intervention (and sorry Chrystie, if you're reading, but you probably didn't help either!).

He'll know real passion when he finds it and it won't be anything like what he had with Ashley. As long as he stays open to it and doesn't shut down again. I think that is why they had to edit around Ashley and JP to keep us from realizing how real it was and why JP was so 'crazy' after Hong Kong. Him being a little older may have made him sure because he knows the difference between what he's felt in the past. Didn't seem like some of the guys, Ben and Constantine included, have been around a lot.

Totally agree with the bold. And Ben has plenty of time to find love. I feel bad that he was really so into her. It didn't seem like it all the time, but I think that must be his laid-back, quiet, sweet personality.

[Diana]

My heart hurts for Ben! :Frown:

Jash is legit. Said it night one, I'll say it again. What a wonderful love story!

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[Shelby]

I wonder how many of the new member had a brainstorming to find their nicknames today???

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