Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #4

So is everyone just assuming that if Nick isn't sex guy then nothing happened with Kaitlyn in the FS as well? If it did and Shawn knows, I can understand why right now he doesn't have the warm fuzzies for the guy. Why was what Shawn did by favoriting that article so insulting to Nick? I didn't think anything derogatory was written there, only speculation that he was dating Whitney. Sometimes F1 and F2 are buddies post season (Roberto and Chris L, Jef and Arie), sometimes they're relatively neutral (JP and Ben, Chris and Brooks), and sometimes there seems to be animosity (Josh and Nick, Shawn and Nick). I suspect that Nick's ultra competitive nature is partly responsible for him not bonding with his biggest adversary in this scenario.

Ironcat ... I have no idea why Shawn did what he did ... the problem I see is in the perception of people ... he is contributing to the already bad reputation that Nick was given with this 2nd round.

Not to mention from my previous post ... Nick is again pulled into a "story of diversion" ... during the show (being the smoke-screen) and now (post-spoiler) ... so a little less would be appreciated, since he (Shawn) was doing so well so far, being all SM inactive until Friday.

Maybe Nick has to pay for spoiling the season last year and TPTB will "use" him whenever they want for a certain time for payback ?

bilolo wrote:Maybe Nick has to pay for spoiling the season last year and TPTB will use "use" him whenever they want for a certain time for payback ?

Very likely and if so, then they are using him for K's spoiler-gate too.

happygolucky wrote:Ironcat ... I have no idea why Shawn did what he did ... the problem I see is in the perception of people ... he is contributing to the already bad reputation that Nick was given with this 2nd round.

Not to mention from my previous post ... Nick is again pulled into a "story of diversion" ... during the show (being the smoke-screen) and now (post-spoiler) ... so a little less would be appreciated, since he (Shawn) was doing so well so far, being all SM inactive until Friday.

Thank you

kimberlyg wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:How about he is planning on making Whitney, Kaitlyn and Becca his three sister wives?  They are planning their own TLC show.  MF is all excited!

I get that snapgate happened or whatever, but I wish they would have left Nick out of it and just sent K back to Vancouver or something.  Instead they have to send her to Chicago?  And that's pretty douche-y of Shawn to favorite that article, when there's a 0% chance that it's true.  Can't the F1 guys just be classy about it?  I expected more from Shawn.

K/S made the mistake (mostly K) so it is their problem not Nick's. I am not surprised though when in doubt make it Nick's problem too and now Whit and Becca too

MonicaJM2001 wrote:K/S made the mistake (mostly K) so it is their problem not Nick's. I am not surprised though when in doubt make it Nick's problem too and now Whit and Becca too

Yup. The craziest thing is that K literally and figuratively spoiled her own season.
But in the end, Nick is going to pay for it anyway.

I do think Nick sincerely went on the show for Kaitlyn, seems fine post filming,but unfortunately he restarted the 2 year clock that they contractually own him.

kimberlyg wrote:

reason wrote:

kimberlyg wrote:



I get that snapgate happened or whatever, but I wish they would have left Nick out of it and just sent K back to Vancouver or something.  Instead they have to send her to Chicago?  And that's pretty douche-y of Shawn to favorite that article, when there's a 0% chance that it's true.  Can't the F1 guys just be classy about it?  I expected more from Shawn.

You really did expect more from Shawn?, Nick is one classy dude to put up with it.

Just got the impression pre-show that Shawn seemed like a pretty laid back dude.  Seems like he's pouting now that the secret is out, which is just weird to me, since he should be beaming.

But back to Nick, I just feel bad for him that he has to be roped into other people's mess-ups to keep the speculation alive this season.  He seemed okay with not getting the girl, and I wouldn't be shocked if he and K had already talked post-show and made amends.  Who knows how much this is going to disrupt whatever plans he had to watch hockey tonight....  Are TPTB going to make them all show up at the same freakin' bar?

Hockey was last night...Chicago won...no tweets though from Nick like the past games

bilolo wrote:Maybe Nick has to pay for spoiling the season last year and TPTB will "use" him whenever they want for a certain time for payback ?

Ironically though planegate pales to the oopsie K/S did Friday so let them struggle to fix it...no one was called in to help Nick

^ Probably because it is the curse of being F2.
Got to keep the lead and F1 clean.
The F2 person can get more negativity added because it only reinforces the status of lead & F1 and why F2 is not F1.

I really don't see Nick being called "in" to cover anything.JMO!