Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #4

bleuberry wrote:When Nick outed her on TV, many defended his right to do that and said Andi brought it on herself. Well now Nick goes back for Bachelorette serving #2, opening himself up yet again to criticism from viewers - Andi being one of them. Some would say he brought it on himself and just goes with the territory.

Exactly!!!!  I don't feel the least bit bad for Nick for any of the jabs he gets on Twitter, including those from Andi. He knew exactly what he was gettting into when he did this for the second time. He's not even the one complaining about the negativity. He's accepting of it and even making fun of himself.  So maybe everyone else should let it go too.

Nicely done Andi. She has as much right to her opinions as anyone and has more first hand experience with Nick than almost anyone in this regard. Can't believe people defend this creep. I hope K can knock that smug look off his face.

IMO Nick doesn't really care what anyone thinks of him and wouldn't expect any sympathy from anyone. He IMO was well aware of what it would mean for him to return to this franchise. Those that follow him would know this is the type of person he is. He owns up to his decisions.

That's the difference between these two.

Andi is very much into worrying about what others think of her. There's  nothing wrong with badmouthing your ex which you had a very big part of creating the mess that later unfolded. She had made some rash decisions but IMO doesn't own up to them. This is nothing new, it's the same Andi we saw on JPG's season.

I also don't feel the least bit bad for Nick and sincerely doubt he wants anyone's pity. He doesn't seem to care what fellow contestants, viewers, SM stalkers and message board posters think of him.

I most certainly do not feel bad that MeandI is criticized and made fun of for playing the combination victim-mean girl for her Twitter jabs at Nick. She is working hard to be relevant and this is a effort to generate buzz for herself. At some point, maybe she will move on. At least she is giving poor old Josh a rest. :cutesmile!:

bleuberry wrote:When Nick outed her on TV, many defended his right to do that and said Andi brought it on herself. Well now Nick goes back for Bachelorette serving #2, opening himself up yet again to criticism from viewers - Andi being one of them. Some would say he brought it on himself and just goes with the territory.

Till this day I still defend him with what he said to Andi. You do not go around leading someone around telling them not to worry and that everything is fine . Then you sleep with him 2 days before you are supposedly so in love with someone else and get engaged. Then at the AFTRC you come out being a cold hearted bitch when all he wanted was closure. if she would of had one ounce of compassion it would never of happen IMO.Nick will be critized no matter what he does but the great thing and one of the reason I love him is he will not care. He knows who he is and seems to be very happy at this time. JMO.

My criticism of Andi's actions has nothing to do with Nick. I don't think he needs or wants anyone's pity. Her actions just speak of the kind of person she is over and over again. Yes, she can tweet whatever she wants, but I'm not gonna stop finding it ridiculous anytime soon. A grown liberated woman playing the victim forever because she can't own up to her own actions.

^ Agree so strongly with Whit90 that a like wasn't enough. I did not become a Nick fan until after the ATFR debacle- specifically because of the classy way imo he handled the lynching in the media and court of public opinion.

During Andi's season, I was neutral about Nick-didn't like or dislike him. For me,it was so obvious from the limo exit on that Josh was F1, I just could never feel invested in any of the other guys.

So, I watched the ATFR without any pre disposition to like or defend or hate\criticize Nick for what he said. Watching the ATFR, I was astounded at Andi's icy demeanor to an obviously heartbroken Nick. I will always believe, exactly as Whit 90 said,that if MeAndi had managed to feign an ounce of compassion for his heartreak, the now infamous question NEVER would have been said.

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO Nick doesn't really care what anyone thinks of him and wouldn't expect any sympathy from anyone. He IMO was well aware of what it would mean for him to return to this franchise. Those that follow him would know this is the type of person he is. He owns up to his decisions.

That's the difference between these two.

Andi is very much into worrying about what others think of her. There's  nothing wrong with badmouthing your ex which you had a very big part of creating the mess that later unfolded. She had made some rash decisions but IMO doesn't own up to them. This is nothing new, it's the same Andi we saw on JPG's season.

It's one of the things I like about him. ^
It's the main thing I dislike about her. ^
You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar, might serve her well in the future.

luvlady345 wrote:LOL, good for Andi, everyone doesn't like Nick and she doesn't have to.... Going by that tweet favorite and retweet she is not in the minority..... She can sit with me anytime....

Isn't this what she always looks for?
Attention, attention, and more attention.

She is riding his coattails to get attention, how ironic is that?
Maybe she is so last year and she needs Nick's help for a bit?

And this is the way she used her fame - revenge.
How evil her soul is??

Andi just needs to finally admit to herself that she lead him on as a "backup" in case Josh didn't tell her what she needed on the FD and let it go.  Either that or she's trying to pay lip service to the remaining JODI fans and doesn't actually care.

But seriously, Andi's likely known about this for months from Sharleen, I'm sure it's been around the Bachelor Nation gossip circle and back, and even Andi herself hung out with Nick in Chicago back in February and the world didn't end.  So I don't really know what to think the real reason is, except that the lines between "character Andi" and "real life Andi" just seem so so confusing that it's giving me a headache .

whit90 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:When Nick outed her on TV, many defended his right to do that and said Andi brought it on herself. Well now Nick goes back for Bachelorette serving #2, opening himself up yet again to criticism from viewers - Andi being one of them. Some would say he brought it on himself and just goes with the territory.

Till this day I still defend him with what he said to Andi. You do not go around leading someone around telling them not to worry and that everything is fine . Then you sleep with him 2 days before you are supposedly so in love with someone else and get engaged.  Then at the AFTRC you come out being a cold hearted bitch when all he wanted was closure. if she would of had one ounce of compassion it would never of happen IMO.Nick will be critized no matter what he does but the great thing and one of the reason I love him is he will not care. He knows who he is and seems to be very happy at this time. JMO.

How do you have compassion for someone who is a sore loser and thought all along that no one else was competition? He was over confident and acted like there was no way she could have feelings for anyone else. He didn't except her decision and tried to see her twice and then in his letter tired to get her to change her mind. I don't know how I would have acted in that situation either.

nannymargie wrote:

whit90 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:When Nick outed her on TV, many defended his right to do that and said Andi brought it on herself. Well now Nick goes back for Bachelorette serving #2, opening himself up yet again to criticism from viewers - Andi being one of them. Some would say he brought it on himself and just goes with the territory.

Till this day I still defend him with what he said to Andi. You do not go around leading someone around telling them not to worry and that everything is fine . Then you sleep with him 2 days before you are supposedly so in love with someone else and get engaged.  Then at the AFTRC you come out being a cold hearted bitch when all he wanted was closure. if she would of had one ounce of compassion it would never of happen IMO.Nick will be critized no matter what he does but the great thing and one of the reason I love him is he will not care. He knows who he is and seems to be very happy at this time. JMO.

How do you have compassion for someone who is a sore loser and thought all along that no one else was competition?  He was over confident and acted like there was no way she could have feelings for anyone else.  He didn't except her decision and tried to see her twice and then in his letter tired to get her to change her mind.  I don't know how I would have acted in that situation either.

Andi led him on a big time, that is why he was so confident that was mutual.
Andi the Brat is no victim, but she keeps calling for sympathy, yuck!!!