Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #4

None of us personally know Andi,....so none of us truly know what kind of person she or Josh is.. I personally think shes a strong independent woman who can hold her own and to be honest not every guy wants that maybe Josh though he did ..If you look at Josh and who he's dating now shes the perfect trophy wife/girlfriend the complete opposite of Andi... Andi's a take no poop kind of girl and anyone here can say what they want to say she truly loved Josh, her interview with CH basically proved that..Josh on the other i think was in love infatuated with what she had accomplished/could accomplish.

By all means Andi has accomplished a lot in her 28 years a life she went to college got her degree.. then went to law school got her law degree and passed the bar.. Now its time for her to get out there and explore life and see what i has to offer .. ultimately she wanted more than what Josh could give her...and she did that by moving to NY and just putting all out there.

Linds911 wrote:^ LOL Josh is nowhere near a millionaire, just known for being a former baseball player & star of his college football team and now has a NFL brother who got drafted the day after their engagement. Her parents were/are huge fans of his family so that also had a part in him being Andi's F1 among other things.

I still like her but yes there are some things she could change.

Yeaaa I think Andi is more set in the Money department than Josh is.... I thought he was a Financial Advisor .. that job went out the window quick...He sells Advocare which is basically equivalent to a lower brand/version of Herbal life... as a career i don't think so

Cdrogers wrote:None of us personally know Andi,....so none of us truly know what kind of person she or Josh is.. I personally think shes a strong independent woman who can hold her own and to be honest not every guy wants that maybe Josh though he did ..If you look at Josh and who he's dating now shes the perfect trophy wife/girlfriend the complete opposite of Andi... Andi's a take no poop kind of girl and anyone here can say what they want to say she truly loved Josh, her interview with CH basically proved that..Josh on the other i think was in love infatuated with what she had accomplished/could accomplish.

By all means Andi has accomplished a lot in her 28 years a life she went to college got her degree.. then went to law school got her law degree and passed the bar.. Now its time for her to get out there and explore life and see what i has to offer .. ultimately she wanted more than what Josh could give her...and she did that by moving to NY and just putting all out there.

Well, I'm sure none of us has met Charles Manson, Bill Cosby, Princess Diana or the Pope, but we can make a judgement call on what kind of person they are based on their actions and what comes out of their mouth. I don't think you need to meet someone to determine their character.

There are going to be those that worship Andi and those that think she is a spoiled, immature mean girl. Ultimately, I think it was Josh who didn't want to deal with her, rather than the other way around. So she's accomplished some things that millions of others have, graduated from college and worked in her profession for however short it was. It doesn't appear to be benefiting her at the moment when she seems so lost. IMO

Cdrogers wrote:None of us personally know Andi,....so none of us truly know what kind of person she or Josh is.. I personally think shes a strong independent woman who can hold her own and to be honest not every guy wants that maybe Josh though he did ..If you look at Josh and who he's dating now shes the perfect trophy wife/girlfriend the complete opposite of Andi... Andi's a take no poop kind of girl and anyone here can say what they want to say she truly loved Josh, her interview with CH basically proved that..Josh on the other i think was in love infatuated with what she had accomplished/could accomplish.

By all means Andi has accomplished a lot in her 28 years a life she went to college got her degree.. then went to law school got her law degree and passed the bar.. Now its time for her to get out there and explore life and see what i has to offer .. ultimately she wanted more than what Josh could give her...and she did that by moving to NY and just putting all out there.

this is purely said in jest but enjoyed reading your post so if you would please indulge my silliness my response is:
Andi is that you??? j/k j/k

Mustang19 wrote:
Well, I'm sure none of us has met Charles Manson, Bill Cosby, Princess Diana or the Pope, but we can make a judgement call on what kind of person they are based on their actions and what comes out of their mouth. I don't think you need to meet someone to determine their character.

There are going to be those that worship Andi and those that think she is a spoiled, immature mean girl. Ultimately, I think it was Josh who didn't want to deal with her, rather than the other way around. So she's accomplished some things that millions of others have, graduated from college and worked in her profession for however short it was. It doesn't appear to be benefiting her at the moment when she seems so lost. IMO

And where should the ones of us who think she's a huge brat and love her anyway go chill?

I find her funny and stylish and enjoy following her, and the same goes for other contestants too. I guess it's because when I'm facing a moral dilemma or a life and death (dramatic!) decision, my first thought isn't, "What would my role model and idol Andi Dorfman/Kaitlyn Bristowe/Ashley Hebert, etc., do?!"  It's just fun entertainment so maybe that's why I'm not offended or bothered by anything that goes on. To each their own.

Cdrogers wrote:None of us personally know Andi,....so none of us truly know what kind of person she or Josh is.. I personally think shes a strong independent woman who can hold her own and to be honest not every guy wants that maybe Josh though he did ..If you look at Josh and who he's dating now shes the perfect trophy wife/girlfriend the complete opposite of Andi... Andi's a take no poop kind of girl and anyone here can say what they want to say she truly loved Josh, her interview with CH basically proved that..Josh on the other i think was in love infatuated with what she had accomplished/could accomplish.

By all means Andi has accomplished a lot in her 28 years a life she went to college got her degree.. then went to law school got her law degree and passed the bar.. Now its time for her to get out there and explore life and see what i has to offer .. ultimately she wanted more than what Josh could give her...and she did that by moving to NY and just putting all out there.

That's just the politically correct way of saying she's a bullhead. For example, Andi is a take-no-poop-kinda-girl (as you stated above), but Josh moved on to a trophy who is the complete opposite of Andi (as you stated above). Those two statements go together. She pretty much admitted that the reason they broke up is cause she didnt know how to stop being a bullhead, just as your post confirms.   

That doesnt sound like the break up was mutual, even though she wants everyone to think it was. 

That stubbornness might be the right temperament to be a lawyer but maybe not so good for intimate relationships. That's a lesson she can never learn though.

Maybe she loved him, and maybe she didnt. The fact that she cried during the interview doesnt mean she loves him. It just means she got dumped, and he wouldnt put up with her 'tude anymore.

Please keep the conversation about Josh in his own thread.

TY

I still enjoy Andi's wit, which is why I follow her, but otherwise I'm very unimpressed with her lately.  I just think she's living a very superficial life right now. She name drops constantly and seems to surround herself mostly with people of a high profile or some sort of celebrity status. I realize many Bach alumni want to stretch their fame for as long as they can, but I feel Andi has taken it to an extreme. And now she's writing a tell-all book, likely exposing the personal details about her relationship with Josh, just to continue being relevant and in the limelight. My guess is she got a lucrative advance to write this book and that is how she is affording her exciting new life in NYC, living in one of the trendiest neighborhoods and eating at the trendiest restaurants. I just can't respect that.  It wasn't her education and hard work that got her there, it was self -promotion and throwing someone under the bus.

I'm all for Andi (or anyone) living their dreams and taking advantage of opportunities that are given to them, but I don't support people who do it at the expense of others, which is what I feel she is doing with this book. She may make some decent money with her SM endorsements and appearances, but I doubt that is enough to support her current lifestyle.  I mean it appears that all she does is eat out, go to concerts, sporting events, fashion shows and play tourist. Yes, she does attend a few charity events, but I feel they are more about her self promotion as well. What happened to her desire to become a fashion designer? Say what you want about Josh, but he atleast has an actual career that he works hard at every day, and btw, makes extremely good money (well into the six figures). What will Andi do when her current fame fades and new fresh faces from the franchise take the spotlight from her? Sure, she still has her law degree, but I don't think she can use it in NYC, or anywhere besides Georgia for that matter.

And just how long is she going to enjoy this superficial lifestyle of hers?  Many of her closest friends are either married, engaged or in a relationship. Some have started families or are pregnant. I have to believe that must get to her at times, when she goes home to her empty apartment by herself at night (one can assume).  I just hope it's all worth it to her in the end.

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I'm all for Andi (or anyone) living their dreams and taking advantage of opportunities that are given to them, but I don't support people who do it at the expense of others, which is what I feel she is doing with this book.

This is the main reason I don't care for her. She used JPG to her advantage to audition for the next lead, even at the end making fun of his accent. She continues to use it apparently in the title of her new book, "It's not ok". She takes pleasure in throwing shade, her latest, "apparently there's only room for one Andy Murray" with the famour tennis player, paraphrasing from her twitter. She uses circumstances around her to try and keep herself in the spotlight. IMO she doesn't have any ambition, doesn't finish what she started. What happened to her video what ever they are, her scarf company association. I just checked her website and was taken to someone who became a millionaire over night.

Her life style is her choice, but my opinion, she is a lost soul. I believe she really needs some guidance from professionals.

Life is a learning journey for us all, hopefully hers is a good one.

Only if one wants to learn, to grow up and be a better self.
I don't see it in MeAndi at all, she is already so full of herself, there seem to have no room for learning.

I was neutral about her in JP season, did not notice the autition thing back then, just thought she was a little too much in her last conversation with him and can't stop talking.

The turning point for me was the way she treated Eric (may he rest in peace). Eric just wanted an honest, friend to friend talk, but she took it as "how dare you challenge me". she is the entitled diva, who can't take opinion AT ALL. How could she learn when she has this attitude?

peggy0221 wrote:The turning point for me was the way she treated Eric (may he rest in peace). Eric just wanted an honest, friend to friend talk, but she took it as "how dare you challenge me". she is the entitled diva, who can't take opinion AT ALL. How could she learn when she has this attitude?

Do you remember where this happened? Maybe I can find a clip somewhere. That sounds exactly like something she'd do. I love the little bits of psychology you can learn by watching people in these situations. She is a bully. Now she just has to figure out which sucker is looking to marry a bully. There are a few out there.